I am building an adams motor and woundered
what experiences others have had, like what coil resistances where used
how successful they have been are they using there motor generators on a daily
basis to produce usable energy to run some load charge batteries produce
hydrogen whatever. I have built a bedini monopole and several different
coils and cores and am currently running it on 24 volts and charging about 800
amp hours of batteries at 72 volts but progress is slow as most of the batts
are fairly sulphated and it will take several charge discharge cycles to get
them back to life.
Hello everyone!
I'm preparing to build an Adams type motor, which I intend to use as
driving motor for Frenette's heater. And I have a bit of a problem,
namely everything I have read up until now about Adams motor was
about electric efficiency. What I would like to know is what kind of
torque I can expect (and still function as generator, which will
supply it self whit electricity, more or less)? Is it able to run
physical loads or just electrical?
And another question, if I may. Recently I stumbled (again) across
this: "Dr. Robert Adams (NZ) has developed astounding designs of
electric motors, generators and heaters that run on permanent
magnets. One such device draws 100 watts of electricity from the
source, generates 100 watts to recharge the source, and produces
over 140 BTUs of heat in two minutes!"
It is an excerpt from dr. Lindermann' article/essay about free
energy. I'm interested in heaters these days, heaters that are more
efficient that those you can buy (resistive ones). So I tried
Frentte's design and it works. But after reading this (in bold
letters), I'd like to try this one more. Unfortunately, except this
quotation I can't find anything about Adams magnetic heater. Can you
help me? Do any of you know where I can find out more about his
design? Or better yet, can it be bought?
Same question was posted in the forum at overunity.com, with no luck
so far (after a day). Hopefully, someone from here can help me.
I am building an Adams motor as well at the moment. I don’t think
Peter L is up to date with where Robert is at so I will try to answer what
questions I can. I have been to see Robert several time and will be
seeing him again shortly. There are several designs of RAs out there you
can use that produce shaft torque and power themselves or nearly power themselves
but the actual details are not broad and sketchy in that you need to make one
and experiment with it to see what sort of results you can achieve. This
is where the group sharing thing can be a huge help and speed development up if
everyone shares and steers each other away from mistakes that we don’t all
need to make. The motor generator Peter was referring to is one of the
super thermo motors of Roberts which are still under wraps probably till early
next year when things may change in that regard. Have you got any of RAs books
like The Adams Motor Manual, or The Revelation of the Century which is
the addendum to the 1st book. Unfortunately most of his books are out of
print but there may be some still available at NEXUS MAGAZINE in BrisbaneAustralia.
As they sold most of RA books through there retail side over there. If
you are unable to get or don’t have any such information I may be able to
get the drawings I have which are currently in A3 format reduced to A4 through
a photocopier and fax or scan and email them to you as they will give you some ideas
on where to start. Roberts motor that Peter L was talking about puts out
heat and usable Aetheric or Radiant Energy whichever you prefer which is
much like DC in use but has no current to it but will do everything normal DC
will do and is much safer as even at 1000volts it cannot kill you but may give you
a burn. The heat comes from the hollow coil cores being water cooled and
the coil windings are water cooled or they would overheat and be destroyed as
the energy output is so great in this optimised design. Therefore heat is
also usable energy and the intent is that the generator be setup below or near
the household hot water cylinder and plumb into the system to provide hot water
as a free bonus while providing electricity to power the house. But as I
said earlier this is not yet available for a little while longer but intellectual
property protection is in place and any commercial operator tiring to steal the
design will come unstuck. He is not opposed to individuals making one
copy for there own use at all as we have discussed this and it is a very good
design. The reason Peter L call it a heater is that the only true reading
of energy output is by taking a heat output measurement, I.E. feed the
total electrical output into an immersion heating element and combine the heat
from the coils and cores into the same water tank as well as the heat from the
mosfet and measure temp rise over time and you have a figure that is truly
representive of the machines total output. As radiant energy has no
current to it the watt system is useless and obsolete.
Get back to me and let me know
what you have got and I may be able to help with drawings or others in the
group may have some good answers as well. A group effort is the best way
forwards.
Hello Russel,
Thank you very much for your reply. I was going to give up on group
cooperation (just kidding). Anyways, I totally agree with you, only
as a group we can succeed in making the difference. As I said, I
haven't started to build the replica yet since I'm in the phase of
gathering as much information as I could. I tried to get one of
those Manuals you are talking about, without any luck so far.
Fortunately, there is some information available, made by Mr. Tim
Harwood and Mr. John Jankowski at this internet address:
http://members.fortunecity.com/freeenergy2000/adamsmotor.htm
It looks fairly accurate and usable. If you have some information,
which can help me more, it will be appreciated. And I intend to make
one of Adams motor replica no matter what.
As far as Adams "heater" is concerned I guess the right name for it
would be Mark 024 Thermo Switched Reluctance Motor (just guessing).
I've sent request for some information to Aethmogen also with no
reply so far. You said:
"But as I said earlier this is not yet available for a little while
longer but intellectual property protection is in place and any
commercial operator tiring to steal the design will come unstuck.
He is not opposed to individuals making one copy for there own use
at all as we have discussed this and it is a very good design."
Does that mean there is some information about this invention
available? Because I can't find it. And you can believe me I tried
to find it. Figures Mr. Lindermann is writing about are unbelievable
(but I believe they hold true), and ever since I came across this I
can think only about how would be nice if I would be able to build
one of this gizmos. Frentte's gizmo is nothing compared to this (but
still, for now I will stuck with it for curiosity if nothing else).
If I understood you correctly, Mr. Adams doesn't oppose to building
one for personal purposes (this is my only intention anyways)? If
so, can you help me or point me to the right direction how to get
more (usable) information about this "heater"?
Thank you for all your help.
Best regards,
Marjan
P. S.: Yes I'm familiar with radiant energy. Well, familiar is a bit
strong word ;-), since everything I know about it is result of
reading about inventions of great men like Tesla, Morray, Gray,
Sweet, Baumann and others. But I have a question about health risks
involved here. I know Tesla said there is no impact on physical well-
being if pulses are shorter than 100 n. But he was talking about
short-term observations. What would happen if one would have one of
such generators in his home functioning uninterrupted for several
years?
I am in the final stages of making an Adams motor.
I wish to constuct a 12 to 24 DC pulse coil that will be powerfull and
efficient repelling a 7/16 inch (diameter) neodymium rod magnet.
Can anyone give me advice as how to construct this coil. My power
supply is a regulated 12 volts DC and puts out 2.5 amps. I plan to use
24 volts DC later so the coil should be able to handle that also. Any
and all advice is most welcome. Thanks, Tom
I certainly don’t
have all the answers but a bit more info might help. What is the core you
are using for your coil? Is it pure iron or some less effective
material? If it is pure iron it will need to be equal in diameter to the
magnet and if it is just soft iron wire or lamination plate it will need to be
bigger in cross section than the magnets to avoid magnetic saturation which
will make your motor generator run very slow and not show OU effects. I
have not got a formula for the size of wire or number of turns but would
suggest 26 gauge SWG wire with a 10 ohm resistance. So you can work out
how many meters of wire you will need like for 26 gauge you need 74.6 meters of
wire to get 10 ohms. Your voltage is probably too low for neos magnets
and you will go far better at low voltages with ferrite magnets and use neos
for higher voltages like 48 volts upwards. You may need to build 2 or 3
coils to get a good result unless someone can give you very accurate
information. All the best as we are all just learning this stuff.
Thanks for the info. My magnets are 7/16 inch in diameter. So I will experiment using iron or grade 1010 soft steel 7/16 inch diameter rods and bolts as a core. I am using a steel bolt presently for the coil core. It looks like 244 feet 9 inches of 26 gauge wire will bring a 10 ohm resistance. I will have to get a variable voltage power supply somewhere capable of an output more than 12 volts. Let you know what happens. Tom
I certainly don’t have all the answers but a bit more info might help. What is the core you are using for your coil? Is it pure iron or some less effective material? If it is pure iron it will need to be equal in diameter to the magnet and if it is just soft iron wire or lamination plate it will need to be bigger in cross section than the magnets to avoid magnetic saturation which will make your motor generator run very slow and not show OU effects. I have not got a formula for the size of wire or number of turns but would suggest 26 gauge SWG wire with a 10 ohm resistance. So you can work out how many meters of wire you will need like for 26 gauge you need 74.6 meters of wire to get 10 ohms. Your voltage is probably too low for neos magnets and you will go far better at low voltages with ferrite magnets and use neos for higher voltages like 48 volts upwards. You may need to build 2 or 3 coils to get a good result unless someone can give you very accurate information. All the best as we are all just learning this stuff.
Hi All,
Just new to this group, I have posted a couple of pictures in the
Photo section.
I am using an old hard drive as the spindle with four magnets epoxyed
on. As I have mentioned, I have just started building this unit. I
found that an old relay works well for a coil to start with. Just
with one so far, its spinning quiet well with 7.2 volts at 18mA. Next
week I will strip two relays and hook them up.
I will add another post and let you know how it went.
Trev.
For Tom (and whoeverelse),
The optimum coil size starts with the dimension of the permanent
magnet.
The core CSA should be no more than 75% of the magnets CSA. This will
dictate the inner coil diamter. then multiply by 1.618 (golden ratio)
to get the outer coil diamter. Length of the coil should be around 3x
the outer diameter.
I use 0.6mm winding wire (coated) which results in a low resistance
and therefore I need a mosfet switch to drive it.
The placement of the trigger switch (I use a mag reed switch) seems to
be the critical parameter. I'm still working on this.
Has anybody tried Caduceus wound coils?
Guru Dave.
Hi All,
Using eight magnets, I have managed to run on one 12volt battery and
charge a second battery quicker than the first depletes. When the
battery gets to 12.72v (12.85 Charged)I swap them over. Runs for
10hours before I change them over. Also runs two LED's.
Will post a circuit diagram when I draw it up.
See new photos.
Trev.
--- In adamsmotor@yahoogroups.com, "mgmlab04" <mgmlab04@y...> wrote:
>
>
> I have experience in other forms of overunity devices. I decided to
> experiment with the Adams Motor and the Harwood-Jankowski POD
(power on
> demand) Transductor.
> If any are curious about my other endeavors check out
> www.geocities.com/mgmlab04.
> To the administrator of this group, many thanks for starting it.
> Marv McEntire
>
Hi mgmlab04,
I am working in the areas you are and have several questions to ask
you about semiconducters and hall devices. I have a circuit to show
you also After looking at your web site I have placed a blue led on
one of my 12 volt motors and for some reason my motor runs a lot
quieter???. Can you please contact me at:
tferko243700MI@... Thanks, Tom magnetman12003
Hi every one i got a question to ask of you.
With utility bills getting higher and higher, i am trying to build an
adams motor to run my whole house.
Has any one built one that could run the whole house?
Can any one help me start or tell me how much will it coss, where i
can get supplies etc.
Me and my friend are triying to help ourselfs and unplug the money
machine.
Thank you for all your help.
If I am able to build a small motor, would I be able to build a big
one on the same principals that can sustain a house?
Is there any one that would like to group and work on this?
I am willing to cooperate with ya'll to accomplish this project.
If all of us put our knowledge together we can come up with a motor
that each of us can build at home and use to our advantage.
Notice to all Group Members,
Wednesday the 10th of May Robert Adams died have recently suffered a
serious stroke. His absence will be missed by many in the FE community.
It is likely that his website will close as there is no one to keep it
going at the moment so downlaod anything you may want before that happens.
Regards to all,
Russel Prier.
I would support by offering space on my
servers for any website as well. (Just an offer of an alternative to the free
services, more flexible this way)
Judy lynn
From:
adamsmotor@yahoogroups.com [mailto:adamsmotor@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gáva, Tamás Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 11:08
AM To: adamsmotor@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [adamsmotor] Re
robert Adams
Hello Everyone!
I was just reading the list till now but this sad event made me write.
I think it will be welcome if someone among the members who was close to Mr
Adams opens a new list and lets this important discussion continue.
Best regards:
Tamás Gáva Hungary, Budapest
Russel Prier
<russelp@...> wrote:
Notice to all Group Members,
Wednesday the 10th of May Robert Adams died have recently suffered a
serious stroke. His absence will be missed by many in the FE community.
It is likely that his website will close as there is no one to keep it
going at the moment so downlaod anything you may want before that happens.
Hi All group members,
The Aethmogen website subscription has come up for renewal and as
Robert Adams has died last May and is obviously not posting there any
more the site will be gone in a couple of days unless someone wants to
carry it on. There is quite a bit of good info there. Anyone wanting
to help should send an EM to
web_master@...
The site is www.aethmogen.com if you havent been there already. you
can find it in the links on the homepage of this site.
All the best,
Russel Prier.
In adamsmotor@yahoogroups.com, "elysilva2005" <elysilva2005@...> wrote:
Have a good day to all!
I wolud like how make a coil in photos. How many layers a have to make.
Ely
I don-t know how make the Coil Adams motor. Do you have a link that
show this in Photos.
Hi Ely,
Most of the low voltage coils (6 to 12 volts) were made with a
resistance of 7 to 12 ohms. You can find charts on the web for any size
of magnet wire and they will give a resistance per meter and from that
you work out the length of wire to use. Counting turns or layers is not
necessary, you just want the resistance in the right range. Higher
voltage input and you would use higher resistance as Robert says if you
are using over 100 volts up to 360 volts input use 72 ohms resistance
which was where he got very good results. These pages don't describe
all there is to know about these machines and Robert wanted to people to
experiment and learn many of the secrets of permanent magnets and Aether
energy that he learn't over his lifetime learning this stuff. He used
to love to help genuine experimenters but unfortunately we are no longer
able to ask him questions as he died 18 months ago and I have many
questions I would love to ask him still. You can generate pulses of
aether energy then you need to learn how to use them as they don't store
in batteries well at all but need to be used as they are created to
perform work. The Bedini Motor is all about trying to store this
energy in batteries which I now believe to be the wrong approach and
does not work very well with radiant or aether energy. This is a long
learning curve but a few have traveled it before us particularly Tesla
so much reading and learning is required. All the best and keep asking
questions and learning from what you see and experimenting.
Russel P.
elysilva2005 wrote:
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> Have a good day to all!
>
> I wolud like how make a coil in photos. How many layers a have to make.
>
> Ely
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A wire size of 0.25 to 0.35mm 24 to 28gauge would be ok.
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> "elysilva2005" <elysilva2005@...> wrote:
>
> Have a good day to all!
>
> I wolud like how make a coil in photos. How many layers a have to make.
>
> Ely
>
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Hi All,
I am interested in building, or at least trying to build an AM. I
have heard about Adams but don't know too much about his design
principles.. Can anyone point me in the right direction for a better
understanding of both the man and his design, engineering and the
current state of his technology.. I have a small workshop from which
I "tinkle" at historic engineering, mainly mechanical by nature, even
though my background is electrical engineering.
Thank you.
Hi,
Below is a link to Roberts web site. It is a bit jumbled up there is
some useful info there and some here. Tim does not fully understand
what Robert was doing and Robert did not show everything in his patent
which he put in the public domain in 1993 or thereabouts. Read that
info and his later designs use higher resistances and store a charge in
the fields around the coils and function properly at a specific
resonance which is both common to the coil and the magnet. EE training
doesn't teach you much of the true characteristics of permanent magnets
and some of the University teaching is in error about magnetism.
Testing and experimentation will teach you a lot more that is important
to these types of motor generators. Also the output you are looking for
is neither ac or dc but has voltage to it without any current but will
perform work event though it is wattless as you will see reading through
Roberts website. This energy can be transformed or used through and
inverter to run conventional electrical equipment. I am only a student
of these technologies myself and there is a lot to learn still. John
Bedini has not yet discovered the sort of energy Robert Adams was
getting out of his motor generators although they started from the same
place in the late 60s with Johns early motors being Adams motors then he
changed to a different type of switching which Robert was aware of and
told me several times would not give the results unless the timing was
modified from the bifilar coils JB was using.
All the best RJP.
http://www.aethmogen.com/
skyhighgjy wrote:
>
> Hi All,
> I am interested in building, or at least trying to build an AM. I
> have heard about Adams but don't know too much about his design
> principles.. Can anyone point me in the right direction for a better
> understanding of both the man and his design, engineering and the
> current state of his technology.. I have a small workshop from which
> I "tinkle" at historic engineering, mainly mechanical by nature, even
> though my background is electrical engineering.
> Thank you.
>
>
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Hi Russel,
Thank you for the information.
regards,
Graham
--- Russel Prier <russelp@...> wrote:
> Hi,
> Below is a link to Roberts web site. It is a bit
> jumbled up there is
> some useful info there and some here. Tim does not
> fully understand
> what Robert was doing and Robert did not show
> everything in his patent
> which he put in the public domain in 1993 or
> thereabouts. Read that
> info and his later designs use higher resistances
> and store a charge in
> the fields around the coils and function properly at
> a specific
> resonance which is both common to the coil and the
> magnet. EE training
> doesn't teach you much of the true characteristics
> of permanent magnets
> and some of the University teaching is in error
> about magnetism.
> Testing and experimentation will teach you a lot
> more that is important
> to these types of motor generators. Also the output
> you are looking for
> is neither ac or dc but has voltage to it without
> any current but will
> perform work event though it is wattless as you will
> see reading through
> Roberts website. This energy can be transformed or
> used through and
> inverter to run conventional electrical equipment.
> I am only a student
> of these technologies myself and there is a lot to
> learn still. John
> Bedini has not yet discovered the sort of energy
> Robert Adams was
> getting out of his motor generators although they
> started from the same
> place in the late 60s with Johns early motors being
> Adams motors then he
> changed to a different type of switching which
> Robert was aware of and
> told me several times would not give the results
> unless the timing was
> modified from the bifilar coils JB was using.
> All the best RJP.
>
> http://www.aethmogen.com/
>
> skyhighgjy wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> > I am interested in building, or at least trying to
> build an AM. I
> > have heard about Adams but don't know too much
> about his design
> > principles.. Can anyone point me in the right
> direction for a better
> > understanding of both the man and his design,
> engineering and the
> > current state of his technology.. I have a small
> workshop from which
> > I "tinkle" at historic engineering, mainly
> mechanical by nature, even
> > though my background is electrical engineering.
> > Thank you.
> >
> >
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