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  • Category: Testing
  • Founded: Nov 1, 2001
  • Language: English
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In this group, we discuss how to test software in projects that are using an Agile style of development (http://www.agilealliance.org).

We expect most members of the group to be independent testers working on an agile team. However, we're open to discussions of other types of agile testing: developer testing, customer acceptance testing, and so forth.

We would like most of the discussion to be specific:

Q: "I am in situation X. I've run into problem Y. Does anyone have any advice?"

A; "I was in a very similar situation last year. We tried Z, and it worked OK."

Generalities - "I think all agile projects should do Z" - are acceptable, but too many of those tend to drive away the practitioners.

This is not a group to discuss whether such a thing as agile testing exists, whether agile software development is a good idea, whether XP is a nefarious plot by programmers to gain license for sloppiness, and so forth. We do not require list members to be agile enthusiasts (though the owners are), but we require them to acknowledge that people are testing in projects that call themselves agile, and that our group is about helping those people do the best job they can.

The list owners will (gently at first, then forcibly) keep the signal-to-noise ratio acceptably high and the tone helpful.

We allow job postings, but only if the post is from someone in the company looking for an Agile tester.

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Re: Automation - customer-facing tests that drive development
... Since we're on the subject, it *sure* *is* *nice* when an editor saves a good idea. Most of my Better Software articles were very lightly edited, and the
Posted - Sun Jul 20, 2008 5:08 am
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Re: Automation - customer-facing tests that drive development
The binoculars trick sounds hilarious. The "confessional" style of debugging (which sometimes works even when done all by oneself) might be a beginning to a
Posted - Sat Jul 19, 2008 9:22 pm
Al Chou
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Re: Automation - customer-facing tests that drive development
... This doesn't, I hasten to say, mean that both editors and testers are dispensable. Having written and edited, coded and tested, I know they're not.
Posted - Sat Jul 19, 2008 9:13 pm
Brian Marick
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Re: Does Exploratory Testing have a role on Agile Projects?
<http://pragprog.com/titles/bmsft/everyday-scripting-with-ruby> In the worst case, you can buy a PDF copy. [If you buy one, everyone can forget what I said
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Re: Automation - customer-facing tests that drive development
... This is true. And yet writers *do* edit their code, and they do develop tricks for working around the difficulties. (My favorite, heard from Richard P.
Posted - Sat Jul 19, 2008 9:01 pm
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