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  • Category: Testing
  • Founded: Nov 1, 2001
  • Language: English
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In this group, we discuss how to test software in projects that are using an Agile style of development (http://www.agilealliance.org).

We expect most members of the group to be independent testers working on an agile team. However, we're open to discussions of other types of agile testing: developer testing, customer acceptance testing, and so forth.

We would like most of the discussion to be specific:

Q: "I am in situation X. I've run into problem Y. Does anyone have any advice?"

A; "I was in a very similar situation last year. We tried Z, and it worked OK."

Generalities - "I think all agile projects should do Z" - are acceptable, but too many of those tend to drive away the practitioners.

This is not a group to discuss whether such a thing as agile testing exists, whether agile software development is a good idea, whether XP is a nefarious plot by programmers to gain license for sloppiness, and so forth. We do not require list members to be agile enthusiasts (though the owners are), but we require them to acknowledge that people are testing in projects that call themselves agile, and that our group is about helping those people do the best job they can.

The list owners will (gently at first, then forcibly) keep the signal-to-noise ratio acceptably high and the tone helpful.

We allow job postings, but only if the post is from someone in the company looking for an Agile tester.

Make announcements of upcoming conferences, seminars, courses and the like on the agile-ANN list, not here.

If you have a general question, such as "What is agile testing?" or "What tools are best?", please research that yourself. Only ask specific questions related to agile testing, such as "Has anyone whose team is doing XP used Tool XYZ for testing Ajax, how did it work for you?" here.

There are other lists for general testing questions that aren't specifically related to agile testing.

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Re: Automated testing of logging feature
... Agreed.  What I like most about Freeman & Pryce's approach is that they essentially make the logging service an interface, so instead of doing something
Posted - Sat Jul 11, 2009 4:17 pm
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Re: Automated testing of logging feature
... I whole-heartedly agree that logging should be a first-class user story. Too many apps fill up the log with trivia, yet don't contain the information
Posted - Sat Jul 11, 2009 3:24 pm
George Dinwiddie
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Re: Automated testing of logging feature
see texttest (www.texttest.org, described in chapter 10 of my book), which is a full acceptance testing framework designed around analysing log entries. --
Posted - Sat Jul 11, 2009 1:22 pm
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Re: Automated testing of logging feature
My favorite writeup on logging is from the soon-to-be-released book "Growing Object-Oriented Software, Guided by Tests" by Steve Freeman and Nat Pryce, the
Posted - Sat Jul 11, 2009 1:29 am
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Re: Automated testing of logging feature
Hmmm.... One option would be to assume Log4J handles the actually file writes, and then override it to redirect what it would write to a file, so it actually
Posted - Fri Jul 10, 2009 3:45 pm
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