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Re: [agile-testing] Agile Testing

Hello, Adrian. On Tuesday, February 6, 2007, at 6:57:51 PM, you
wrote:

> On 6 Feb 2007, at 18:08, Ron Jeffries wrote:
> [snip]
>> Regarding the notion that requirements are not changing but we're
>> just discovering them, I'd say that's more a clever word twist than
>> a point with much utility.
> [snip]

> Isn't there quite a difference between "I was wrong" or "I've changed
> my mind" and "I've discovered something new"? The former sounds
> negative to me. The latter sounds positive.

> I think I might find that difference useful.

OK ... if it works for you, use it. I think "requirements" always
means approximately "what we think, right now, that we need".

Ron Jeffries
www.XProgramming.com
Computers are useless. They can only give you answers. -- Picasso




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Hello, Adrian. On Tuesday, February 6, 2007, at 6:57:51 PM, you ... OK ... if it works for you, use it. I think "requirements" always means approximately...
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