Dear Friends, How are you? I hope you are doing great. We have formed a new job consultant to serve the job seekers. we are having lot of contacts of various...
Lisa, thanks for sharing this information I have a question that is usually a problem for me when attacking testing tasks. It pertains to estimating the time...
I am co-hosting a workshop on open-source testing frameworks Jan 12-14 in Austin. This is actually the seventh meeting of the Austin Workshops on Test ...
Scott I would suggest that you need to break down the tasks more vertically within your sprint, so insted of having to wait a full 6 days before you see...
Actually on reading you email I have the following additional comments ... This all implies that the initial estimates for producing production quality...
... sure they work (includes user interface testing) ... I have some reaction to the exploratory/automated dynamic, but also to what we mean by "testing...
Hi Scott, I would avoid at all costs having separate 'development' and 'test' sprints. There are situations where post-development test cycles are necessary,...
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... In fact, I tend to favor "heightening the contradictions". If two weeks is barely enough time to get the testing done, go to one week. That will force you...
Scott, Regarding your estimating we've recently adopted estimating poker to help us with our estimates. The way we do it is two developers and/or testers are...
Thanks Lisa. It sounds like we need to stick with the two week sprints and work on getting functioning code to test sooner (also what Olly suggested) to be...
I second the book recommendation. But be advised, estimating is just hard. It's not possible to get it 'right', you just have to hope things average out....
I don't know how you decide how much work you can take on in a sprint, but I hope you are looking at the velocity completed in the previous sprint and not...
It's nice to know the theory behind it. All I knew was that when we couldn't get our sprints delivered in 4 weeks, we went to 2, and if 2 hadn't worked, we'd...
"Unless someone on this list has the secret to 'correct' estimates!? " Practice. Look at why you're times were off. Practice again. ;) Also, it's easier to...
Lisa is completely right, it's better to deliver something that's actually production quality, than something that is merely demonstrable, or a series of half...
That's my point, nobody should feel bad for 'wrong' estimates. No matter how much we try to learn from our history, we're still guessing. We might get...
Brian, I like the term "heighten the contradiction" although I've never heard it before. Scott, I have seen organizations use one month sprints, and the...
and how will we know how many of these features we will be able to deliver in a given period of time? ... -- Lisa Crispin Co-author, Testing Extreme...
Hello, Lisa. On Tuesday, December 5, 2006, at 12:15:49 PM, you ... observe your past performance and project it to the future? My new video on infoQ might be...
My original point was that I find estimating is hard and other teams I've talked to seem to find this to be true also. Past experience is the best thing we've...
Hello, Lisa. On Tuesday, December 5, 2006, at 2:10:28 PM, you ... Not about how to do it. Chet and I have a course in it, of course, and Mike Cohn has a book...
I wasn't really asking how to do it. Just pointing out that it's something everyone struggles with. -- Lisa ... -- Lisa Crispin Co-author, Testing Extreme...
Earlier, Lisa said Test Estimation was hard, and asked if anyone had a ... We don't. Why pretend we do? There's a slippery slope between asking for good...
I think I was misunderstood, I don't believe there IS any perfect method, and my point was trying to be exactly the same thing as your point. People shouldn't...
I think the best ... Iteration after iteration, with burndown charts and good backlogs, this becomes awfully powerful. I had a conversation with Jonathan Kohl...
It occurred to me to wonder if this was common or not. If I need for example Expect, or if I need to do some network programming, or userAgent stuff, I'll use...
Sure. I don't have the breadth of experience that it appears you have. But I code in C# for application programming, which isn't terribly useful when I want ...
... Thanks. I'm more of a dabbler, but I have solved a wide range of problems over the years. But I code ... I want ... This is a little more apples and...
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