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16134 Gojko Adzic
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Feb 1, 2009
12:06 pm
there's a whole chapter on the spec workshops, and the idea is mentioned in most other chapters as well. -- gojko adzic http://gojko.net...
16135 Gojko Adzic
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Feb 1, 2009
12:10 pm
... there are two outcomes. one is tangible - photos of the whiteboard where the examples were, ideally in a form that will be straightforward to clean up and...
16136 Steven Gordon
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Feb 1, 2009
4:10 pm
... I fully agree with the primary objective of creating a shared vision. I totally disagree with delaying the conversion into acceptance tests more than a...
16137 Gojko Adzic
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Feb 1, 2009
4:25 pm
... that depends on the definition of code quality. if by that you mean "solves the business problem for the clients in a way that they want", then it falls...
16138 chrs_mcmhn Offline Send Email Feb 1, 2009
6:40 pm
... discipline. I only ... say sort ... could ... boring to ... Sorry I snipped so much of this excellent post. When something is "sort of" correct, isn't that...
16139 Janet Gregory
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Feb 1, 2009
7:06 pm
I think abandoning the engineering metaphor is a good thing. I have used the word 'craftsmanlike' instead. Taking pride in what we do, but understanding each...
16140 Lisa Crispin
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Feb 1, 2009
8:36 pm
+1 on Fearless Change. I used Mary Lynn and Linda's patterns when I was working on a team that couldn't quite seem to embrace agile, although they gave it lip...
16141 Ron Jeffries
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Feb 1, 2009
10:08 pm
Hello, Steven. On Sunday, February 1, 2009, at 1:53:49 AM, you ... I disagree strongly with this and have blogged on the subject: Quality-Speed Tradeoff —...
16142 Steven Gordon
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Feb 1, 2009
11:29 pm
... Ron, I think we disagree much less than you might think. I think we both agree that delivering fast and consistently enough to discover, evolve and...
16143 Ron Jeffries
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Feb 2, 2009
2:49 pm
Hello, Steven. On Sunday, February 1, 2009, at 6:29:24 PM, you ... You seem to have rants on your mind just now. I do not favor rants as far as I am aware....
16144 andrew_prentice_os
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Feb 2, 2009
4:45 pm
Caveat 1: I work for Atlassian Caveat 2: Code coverage is only as meaningful as the tests being measured ... Atlassian's Clover code coverage tool provides a...
16145 Strg Pune
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Feb 2, 2009
4:46 pm
quote Good point, I have wondered that myself before - is manufacturing QC similar to software QC? One of my coworkers is an industrial engineer, I will ask...
16146 Steven Gordon
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Feb 2, 2009
4:47 pm
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 7:49 AM, Ron Jeffries ... If by "why" you mean exactly how you can tell the code is not up to snuff, I believe you. If by "why", you...
16147 C. Titus Brown
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Feb 2, 2009
4:48 pm
On Sun, Feb 01, 2009 at 10:33:33PM -0000, andrew_prentice_os wrote: -> Caveat 1: I work for Atlassian -> Caveat 2: Code coverage is only as meaningful as the...
16148 Brad Appleton
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Feb 2, 2009
5:28 pm
First off, there was a related discussion in this group about 7months ago on "Traceability Matrix in an Agile Project" that was nicely summarized at *...
16149 Andrew McDonagh
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Feb 2, 2009
5:38 pm
I agree for most projects its a complete waste of effort and money. However, working in the Pharmaceutical industry, we are FDA Regulated and mandated to...
16150 Steven Gordon
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Feb 2, 2009
5:54 pm
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Andrew McDonagh ... It should not be hard to write a script that extracts the names of the tests that are run for each story,...
16151 Andrew McDonagh
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Feb 2, 2009
6:06 pm
That's right, it isn't. But then there's all sorts of other bumph that the corporations Computer System Validation people want/need us to add to it. Keep in...
16152 Michael Bolton
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Feb 2, 2009
8:42 pm
... that the corporations Computer System Validation people want/need us to add to it. Keep in mind, the corporation is very Waterfall oriented. We have 37...
16153 Michael Bolton
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Feb 2, 2009
8:42 pm
... similar to software QC? One of my coworkers is an industrial engineer, I will ask him. It seems like quality values would translate from one industry to...
16154 Lisa Crispin
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Feb 2, 2009
8:46 pm
+1 from me too, both of y'all have made enlightening observations. For the record, I did ask my industrial engineer coworker about QC in manufacturing vs....
16155 Andrew McDonagh
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Feb 2, 2009
9:13 pm
They'd fail the audit, because the documentation is required but if we can't produce good quality evidence and have faith in it....and then admit its...
16156 Michael Bolton
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Feb 2, 2009
10:30 pm
... less ... can't produce good quality evidence and have faith in it....and then admit its failing..... game over... Its not the document or process's...
16157 George Dinwiddie
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Feb 3, 2009
12:12 am
... Andrew, traceability between requirements and tests seems very reasonable, and quite easy to do. It traceability between requirements and lines of code...
16158 George Dinwiddie
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Feb 3, 2009
12:15 am
... You might look at Cucumber, which allows you to create very readable tests. I think there are similar efforts in Java, but the Ruby makes it quite...
16159 chrs_mcmhn Offline Send Email Feb 3, 2009
7:00 pm
I'm posting this for a friend. If it sounds interesting, let me know ... Responsibilities: Ensure a high level of quality for the Rupture client middleware: ...
16160 Kim Gräsman
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Feb 4, 2009
9:50 am
Hi guys, Jack Reeves' article was a real eye-opener for me: http://www.developerdotstar.com/mag/articles/reeves_design_main.html He argues that software builds...
16161 Glenn Halstead
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Feb 4, 2009
10:00 am
I like the 'software builds are like manufacturing' idea. In manufatcuring you're driving for a lean , repeatable process. It's the same process every time...
16162 Bob Clancy
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Feb 4, 2009
1:54 pm
... That's been my experience too (when working as a release engineer rather than as a tester). I wrote an article on by blog suggesting that agile software...
16163 Lisa Crispin
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Feb 4, 2009
5:33 pm
Bob's blog post about standard work practices is prodding me to get our team to focus on capturing more of our processes and activities in checklists or big...
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