... I suspect it really comes down to where your bugs come from. For example, at Socialtext, we have a 'watch page' feature. You click a star that says...
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Mar 1, 2011 2:15 pm
Thanks for this new perspective, Matthew. It looks certainly very interesting and I am going to check the link out straight away. I have kind of decided that...
Both Elisabeth and Ken are correct about ATDD. It is a process. I suggest teams use the process if they don't have the automation in place, so they can get...
*Engineering Mechanics Representations gives a better picture of TDD -- > ATDD* * * ***For instance, Indian Developers / Testers (I have seen in my practical ...
John, I'm not sure what you're saying here. Are you saying that, if one has 50% of their code in GUI layers, then one should not just skip GUI tests and do...
Matt, ... If the page watching logic is in the business logic layer and the star-light and watched pages list are in the model that layer provides to the GUI,...
In case you're looking for differences, you might want to take a look at the Triangle Test Sampler from Elisabeth Hendrickson. It solves the triangle tests on...
... I was really disappointed by this comment, George. I struggled for some time to come up with a reply that was helpful. That said, here goes ... I think...
... Like I said before, it depends on how much eye-candy is in the GUI, but I /can/ see this working on certain circumstances. I especially appreciate that...
... at Socialtext, we have a 'watch page' feature. You click >>a star that says "watch page", the star lights up, then you clicked the "watched pages" link, ...
... Thanks Jose. Yes, that was exactly what I assumed he meant. I'm familiar with mocks; I gave a talk with Sean McMcmillan on the subject at Google Test...
Hi folks, Has anyone used any of the existing ATDD tools such as Robot Framework, Fitnesse/CSLIM or similar for testing telecom products (in particular C/C++...
Hi Dave, we used FitNesse/Slim for testing our customized rating and billing engine for our clients at my previous jobl. We had a JBoss application server, and...
Hi Markus, I'm looking for testing of core call-processing functionality, i.e. the 'guts' of a switch. I have been able to get one team to start using a...
Hi Dave, first, we had a mobile telecom system which could be used for fixed line, but was not very near the hardware. We set up our calls a few steps behind...
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Hubert Matthews
hubert@...
Mar 3, 2011 1:33 pm
... I once wrote a simple telephony application that accepted incoming call notifications from a telephony switch using a text-based protocol over TCP sockets....
I’ll run a webinar on the long term value of acceptance testing on 22nd March. Most of the discussion on automated acceptance tests focuses on immediate...
... Well Robot was developed for a telecom's company: NSN I don't know about C++, but from recent experience with C# if the binding doesn't exist it implements...
Hey Mark, Yes, it was created at NSN. I contacted Pekka, and IIRC it wasn't used for testing the switch software directly. ... Yeah, I realize that we'll have...
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Hubert Matthews
hubert@...
Mar 4, 2011 8:00 am
... What protocols does the switch use? If it's TCP or UDP then you can use netcat or socat to do most of the networking part and all you need deal with is...
Matt, As I'm reading back over your response, it dawns on me. ... Does this statement by George above not address your concern that people suggest to "skip GUI...
... Point taken, Charles. Then again, when I see an Ad with 30 seconds about sugar smacks and 3 seconds about "part of a balanced breakfast", I don't see that...
Your point taken as well. I'm a big believer in two main themes: 1. When designing/architecting, push the logic down as far as it can feasibly go. 2. Focus...
... I assume in this last part Charles is just saying what most of us say: test underneath the GUI as much as possible. In these cases the tests often wind up...
Mark, ... Yes, agreed, except I did add that part about "testers and developers" coming together in a "natural meeting place" we sometimes call "service layer ...
On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Charles Bradley - Scrum Coach CSM PSM I < ... I guess a better statement of my point would be that I was trying to bridge the...
Hi *All*, I would like to know if there is a *certification for Agile Tester*. Something similar to the *Certified Scrum Developer *course that are ...
