All the previous points about the limitations of measuring test effectives via structural metrics (e.g. lines covered, branches covered, etc.) are apt....
I'd like to encourage people to take a look at Kerry's tool. As far as i am aware, it is the only publicly available implementation of a tool supporting the...
... is "100% tested" whatever that means. ... card is 100% tested, but that 100% of those cards are tested. ... Note also that it says nothing about the tests...
The "end-of-iteration test drive" is an idea I heard Brian Marick mention at the Agile Development Conference. See his description below. I'm thinking this...
Hello, This message is to announce the open source project StoryTestRunner, a GUI FIT test runner that executes test fixtures written with the .Net version of...
I've posted before about a workshop that David Hussman, Rick Mugridge, Christian Sepulveda, and I are doing at XP/Agile Universe titled "Who should write...
I've posted before about a workshop that Jonathan Kohl and I are doing at XP/Agile Universe titled "Tests as Documentation" You can find the blurb here: ...
Dear Sir, I am currently a PhD student in UNSW and my research area is in agile methods. I am trying to build a system model to integrate all current exiting...
Today I was asked to define acceptance, contract and unit tests. I would like to hear other people's input from this list? (Note: My project is a somewhat...
Hi Kay, I like the way you have defined these. The only thing I might add in there is applying Brian's concept of customer-facing vs. business-facing tests,...
... I've always used the following definitions when asked (typically by mgmt.) to define / differentiate the types of testing. Unit and System (which would...
I don't understand the goal of one universal agile method. What purpose would a single methodology serve? How could that single methodology work unless you...
Hi, Kay. Utahkay: > Acceptance tests would test at the API and UI layers. It makes no sense to talk about "acceptance test" at the domain or persistence level....
"How little can we do and still build great software?" XP Agile Universe is a few days away. The schedule is set for keynote addresses, tutorials, workshops,...
OK, guys, I've come up against a problem that I can't solve. I'm probably defining the problem wrong, but here's what I've got so far. Problem: How can I, in...
Michael, Thank you for picking up on this! I wanted some help with this part. ... differ from ... Oops, I can only suppose I put the word specialized in for...
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/testdrivendevelopment/ would probably get a bunch of answers. My immediate reaction is to wonder whether the second layer really ...
... Glad you see it that way, and glad to (realize that I might) be of help. I HOPE I can help; I think this is the hard part of what you're trying to do. ......
I was struck by this note from Michael, and wanted to reflect on it from my admittedly radical viewpoint. I do so cognizant of the realities of the situations...
I agree here with Michael. It would be very hard to understand how something that is universal could at the same time be agile. I think the agile view...
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... trying to do. Thanks Michael -- This *is* helping! ... vastly ... something ... successful ... circumstance to ... it's the ... I find this a very useful...
... that we can say with real credibility--otherwise, the first exception to the blanket statement "meets the requirement" blows our reputation. Testers are ...
... Whew. Glad to hear it. ... Rapid Testers holds that a successful test shows that /some/ requirement has been met in /some/ circumstance to /some/ degree. ...
I've read a lot here on what agile/rapid/extreme testing is about and I've got a pretty good idea of what I think we need on our team: someone who will spend...
Parts of what you're experiencing are class issues. Testers are often considered lower class citizens (I'm not whining, really). We are paid less than...
<snipped> ... I came out of the more traditional testing world or "Quality Assurance" school of thought, and I know of many others who have as well. I think...
In 10 years of testing, I think I've only encountered two or three people who would fit what you're looking for...Are they really that rare, or have I been...
... <snip /> Well, Pat, if you can believe it, I used an example almost identical to this in _JUnit Recipes_, essay B.3 "Isolate expensive tests". Since you're...
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