... Actually, I did :) I saw there some term definitions, some "who is doing what" guidelines, a job description, and a test design principle, whereby it is...
... Thanks. I am getting better about writing/communicating my ideas but I am still not very good at it. I have "refactored" my papers/ideas many many times....
I'm excited to hear that, Brian, as I've had back-burner plans to learn and use Plone for over a year. As Plone is built on Zope, I asked Google to search for...
... Brian, Selenium did indeed begin as a tool for testing a Plone-based application. The biggest difference between Selenium and other testing tools is that ...
Bret, It took me a day or so to get, but I think this is HUGE. With the ascention of Firefox, cross-browser testing is becoming an issue again in the corporate...
... their ... quickly, and ... Yes they would. Don't lose the benefit of the continuous build. The component/integration tests are ran on a different machine...
Thanks for the detailed response. There are some cool ideas there, I like the test reuse concept. I've had other developers express similar feelings on the...
... Well, to begin with, why not? I look at it this way: We have a requirement which is well expressed in terms of unit, component, and integration tests. And...
... As usual. Having recovered from the blow... let me check if it shaped my head in the right way :) If I can't run all integration test cases before every...
I've recently been putting some thought [1] into the best way to unit test a web UI and wanted to see if anyone on this list might offer some suggestions. My...
Ron, Although I sympathise with your view of putting all tests in a big bucket, I don't see how it can work universally. Imagine we have 3 components, or 3 ...
STEURS Stefan
stefan.steurs@...
Jan 3, 2005 2:21 pm
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... We won't be testing Plone: if there are places it doesn't work, we'll find those by accident. We're not testing final presentation, only behavior....
... Mr. Grumpy replies: Would reading about it be useful to testing-people working on an Agile project? Yes. Therefore, it is appropriate for this group. (I'm...
... The great thing about HTTP is it forms an undeniable interface right in the middle of your GUI layer. Test-first it by emulating a web browser: ...
... I think of this as the tests reaching "up" into the GUI, rather than exercising it from the outside. One of the nice things about it is that you can both...
Plone does come with a set of unit tests for itself, but it doesn't seem to run out of the box. Still, I'm fairly sure unit testing new Plone code will be...
Ron has made the argument for running lots of kinds of tests in the check-in loop. I'm with Ron. In fact, I'd love to run all the tests while I'm rolling my...
Ward Cunningham
ward@...
Jan 3, 2005 4:49 pm
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... <snip> ... That's so old fashioned ! Just type it in and let google fix your spelling errors :-) Kevin...
First of all I would like to say "well said". It is clear you are addressing real issues and are searching for better solutions. Your hands on expierence...
Selenium sounds like something I should know how to use. A pity I can't come to this weekend's AWTA. Note to people interested in automation: Bret's nonprofit...
The day Explorer and Firefox use the same API will be a great day indeed. For now, I am mildly optimistic that most tests can be done with JavaScript-based...
... Thanks for listening. As always, my intention is merely to jar people's thoughts to a new location, so they can see if they like the view better from...
... I think you're making my point here: thank you. The proposal of Geoff (and Janet?) to separate tests along lines of unit then component then integration is...
... I don't understand what you're getting at here. I'm not interested in coverage: I'm interested in knowing whether the system works. If I can't demonstrate...
... That's OK. I didn't suggest putting all tests in a big bucket, and I didn't suggest that there's something that works universally. What I did suggest is...
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