... We are continuously rewriting programs to make them simpler. Simpler to maintain I mean. Given that we keep adding features, the complexity of the code...
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... Should customer tests be fast. Just read about an example of a long test and thought it was worthwhile to point at it. It's the article "Particle smasher...
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... How does the existence of a long-running test cause you to conclude that long-running tests are necessary? Ron Jeffries www.XProgramming.com You don't want...
How does one conclude they are not necessary? By eliminating the needs for which they might be necessary. Failing to eliminate the needs for which they might...
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The following is long ... but I think it contains a few good things. ... What about simpler code, with equal care taken? What can be said about the time to get...
... Ah, OK, good. Still, the tests you showed /do/ overlap, and I'd be tempted to rely on the Fit ones, especially if I had a real customer. My reasons are: 1....
Could that test have been done with 2 minutes (instead of 14,400) of data? Later... ... BSc(Math) UNBF'83 Sapere Aude | APL: If you can say it, it's done.. ...
Ron Jeffries writes... "I would expect that it would be straightforward to write a garbage collector that could be shown to work by a very small test. The ...
"Code is still an approximation. I.e., at best, you're still relying on the interpreter/translator/compiler, libraries, etc. But, like the saying about...
... [...] ... Utter BS. That's called "subjectivity". <story> What's the difference between neurosis and psychosis? Neurosis is the building of fairy castles....
"As a GOTO compiles in to a shorter machine language code than subroutines calls, the new programX was much slower than the previous (complex) version." A few...
... Or so you say. My version of reality is indeed vulnerable to your perception and interpretation, and your version to my perception and interpretation....
... [...] ... Hmm... To be clear, I was just asking a question -- not implying any belief. ... So, I'm confused since you seem to be talking about different...
Quick interjection: I have had some experience with tests that were running long. They were running searches WRT title data. This test in the unit test suite...
... [...] ... Sorry, Jefe, I stopped playing the solipsism games awhile ago because I do not possess the appropriately "superior intellect". :-? :-) ... Of...
Hi... I know there are some Fit experts here. I have an odd thing happening, I hope you have a suggestion for me. We have a FitNesse server and some simple...
... [...] ... I'd say that they are the *only* components of the solution that we can actually "rely" on. I.e., they execute and we rely upon that actual ...
... I like Richard Rorty's descriptions of the words "objective" and "subjective": an objective statement is one that it's easy to get people to agree to....
... [...] ... I'd be careful with the context of that. My understanding is that Rorty is talking about consenual human interpretation -- i.e., within the...
... Nah. You're /objectively/ of superior intellect. ... For sure I agree with that. One of the reasons that I have respect for agile principles, as stated,...
... [...] ... I can't be since I can't seem to figure out how to work "plethora" into this conversation. :-? :-) ... I hear ya. ... Fine by me so far. In...
... Is this an iterative project? As such ... Are you the only person on the project? Is optimizing your time most important, or optimizing the time of the...
... Depends which part of this thread you're reading. I am experimenting with FIT and hence customer tests. I am interested in hearing how other's are...
... I was trying to show the most critical point for the two teams. Of course developers want bug free code but when push comes to shove the schedule will win...
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... was flicking through the first chapter this morning I ... and exploratory testing are opposing techniques, but if we examine the definition that James Bach...
All that digested (and thank you), I'm curious about two things. When we have external testers, their inputs coming back to us in subsequent iterations have...
... Reality is what's left when you stop believing in it. Objectivity is fact- and data-based rather than opinion-based. ... It matters almost all of the time....
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