... I don't have much experience with use cases, but my hunch is that they share some of the same, um, psychological properties as state machines. Background:...
For my next release, I am going to be using User Stories and not Use Cases. This is a departure for me, but for a variety of reasons, this is way to go. Using...
... If the tech writers are in the room when the customer defines the stories, they'll know everything everyone else does, plus can ask any special questions...
If we determine that use cases are useful for some things and not for others, we use them for the useful stuff. If we determine that FIT tests (aligned with...
I think that the arguments that Michael and Brian present are very useful in this discussion. Finally we are talking about representation and we choose the...
STEURS Stefan
stefan.steurs@...
Oct 3, 2005 12:00 pm
7307
... state-activity-diagrams. Yes; I found that very insightful as well. State diagrams have long been, for me, a reasonable way of showing a map of the...
... The urge to reduce the stuff we did not think of the first time can lead to trying too hard to think of everything the first time, which delays the flow of...
Hello... Do you know anyone going to the Pacific Northwest Software Quality Conference? (pnsqc.org) If you do, I would like to ask a favor-- if you know...
Hi We have organised a recruitment drive for experienced professionals on 8th Oct 05 ( Saturday ) at PTI building . Location of initial posting shall be Noida,...
Although I found state tables and activity diagrams quite useful, it doesn't give the whole picture. Interfaces and object/data structures are obviously not...
STEURS Stefan
stefan.steurs@...
Oct 4, 2005 6:46 am
7312
I was talking about applications that provide direct value to business customers. If I am understanding you correctly, you are talking about systems for...
Hi, I agree and disagree. I have tested lots of business applications on four continents, mainly telco billing, some banking apps, and pharmaceutical industry...
... From: agile-testing@yahoogroups.com [mailto:agile-testing@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Steven Gordon Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 10:10 AM To:...
STEURS Stefan
stefan.steurs@...
Oct 5, 2005 5:31 am
7315
If those interfaces were not be used correctly, our business functionality tests should not pass. It is a pointless waste of time and effort for testers to...
... those components interface with each other. Just a thought in reference to the above -- If business is assumed to be directly responsible to the...
I need to develop a functionality "matrix" to document the features of some fairly complex financial software. The solution doesn't necessarily have to be in...
... I did something like this once with a complex data-validation system. I needed to solve two problems: first, I needed to plan a comprehensive regression...
Dara, do you have to write this up for an entire app, or a big chunk of it? Is there any way to break it down into smaller chunks? We also produce complex...
By all means, if your customer directly uses an interface, then there should be acceptance tests to validate that the interface does what your customer ...
Is it possible to get a copy of your system, it sounds like it might help. Regards, ... I did something like this once with a complex data-validation system. I...
Stephen Sexton
sdsexton@...
Oct 5, 2005 10:20 pm
7322
The problem statement is unclear on what specific objectives you have and what information you have at your disposal. Perhaps, it would help to be clear on...
Short emails often give rise to misunderstanding. Sometimes a context can take a couple of pages to explain. I still have some remarks related to what you've...
STEURS Stefan
stefan.steurs@...
Oct 6, 2005 6:23 am
7324
... help. ... My "system" was just a debugger and an editor for HTML. I left the actual HTML pages behind a long time ago. My system was to: read the code...
... design model in order to test whether the software is using those interfaces in a way that conforms the tester's model of what it should conform to. Is...
Steven Gordon wrote in response to Stefan Steurs: <snip> ... </snip> Stefan might not have been advocating testers creating UML models for existing systems,...
I have just seen far too many cases where, in order to test the software, a tester independently repeated the modeling work that the developers already did in...
Elizabeth Hendrickson wrote: <snip> Stefan might not have been advocating testers creating UML models for existing systems, but I do, if creating those models...
... beginning... Agreed. Unfortunately some (mostly non-agile) organizations make early involvement impossible. My goal is to be able to work within whatever ...
... obliged to ... When that's what I'm being paid for, I absolutely agree with you. (Sometimes I'm being paid for other kinds of contributions...) Elisabeth...
I was assuming an agile context where every role has the opportunity and obligation to work together from the beginning of the project instead of working...
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