In the company i work for, the appreciation for testing especially automated testing is not very big. It is much better than 5 years ago but most of the people...
Are the people who aren't interested in test automation the people who are actually doing the manual tests? Or are they doing some other function? Are you...
I gather that this legacy software system is one your organization sells? If so, in most organizations I know of, a system of this sort is supposed to be a...
Hello, I would suggest you to read an article called "Change your organization (for peons)". You can find it here ...
Samuel Crescêncio
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Jun 1, 2006 11:19 pm
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... That looks good - thanks for the link! I second the recommendation for "Fearless Change". It goes in a similar direction as the article, and is a must-read...
You are absolutely right with the cash cow. We have many user wishes which we integrate in the software. One testing phase lasts about 80 hours. But through...
Hi! The most people i'm talking about are manager, business people. They area only interested in functional requirements which they can sell to customers. I...
Can't earn money with non-functional requirements? Oy. Performance has probably soured more deals than minor missing features. As for AutoCad, how does your...
Hello Samuel, Thursday, June 1, 2006, 11:02:36 PM, you wrote: SC> Hello, SC> I would suggest you to read an article called "Change your organization (for SC>...
Hi Tony, Nice to know that this paper was appreciated. Surely it's a very nice paper. I learned interesting things with this paper in 2004, when trying to...
Samuel Crescêncio
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Jun 2, 2006 5:51 pm
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The Declaration of Interdependance by Alistair Cockburn At the 2004 Agile Development Conference, a number of project, product, and management experts started...
... area only interested in functional requirements which they can sell to customers. ... requirements. They cannot confront the nonfunction requirments with ...
Hi! With non-functional requirments i meant that for the manager it is unnecessary if the design is not okay.... They only see the features... If the...
Hi! Thank you for your good ideas. In my opinion the biggest advantage of automated testing is the fact that only with automatic tests it's possible to do...
The author of that paper changed his name from Little to Shore. His blog at <http://jamesshore.com/blog> is well-worth reading, especially for those interested...
... that only with automatic tests it's possible to do refactoring in a pragmatic manner. I don't want the capture all bugs in the software. ... one small new...
Hi All, Can you tell me some good opensource functional testing tools for java based applocations and possible URL's from where I can download them. Your...
I think it will be difficult for us to answer this question and to have confidence that we can help you without knowing what task you're trying to accomplish. ...
I think most Java GUI tools are based on the Java Robot class, which I believe - and don't quote me on this - mimic native OS events. I know 'Abbot ' is quite...
... We have some tests which use Abbot on a portion of our product that is unchanging. They were created a year or two ago to assure that a legacy part of the...
Can you elaborate more on what you mean by "we've found unit tests to be a more effective starting point for test automation, growing into customer facing...
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Mark Waite wrote ... I have never used Python so I can not really comment, but you may certainly be correct in that coding directly in Java would be a more ...
... We started in 2003 with no unit tests and 100k+ lines of C code and 60k lines of Java code. We had some UI based test automation written in our software's...
You are absolutely right that refactoring is also possible without automatic testing. But in my opinion we want to optimize the whole process and get the most...
... My experience with Abbot was the opposite of what you describe. I tried to evaluate it as though I were a non-technical tester and came to the conclusion...
To be able to automate tests effectively ,coding guidelines should adhere to some 'automatibility standards'. We might have problems in automating tests for...
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