It seems to me that the application of test first design, calls into question the continued relevance of code-centric structural test techniques like path...
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Brian Marick
briandawnpau...
Feb 7, 2002 5:54 pm
... Some of us believe that structural test design techniques were a bad idea even before test-first design. See "How to Misuse Code Coverage" [1] As far as I...
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ihehappen
Feb 7, 2002 7:35 pm
Now that I have established that there is still life in this list I have another poser. I believe that test tool evaluations (I am talking WinRunner, Silk etc)...
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Ron Jeffries
ronaldejeffries
Feb 8, 2002 2:22 am
... Somewhat. But the key idea that underlies XP's rather simple, almost simplistic, notion of testing is much as you have here. If you are /satisfied/ that...
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STEURS Stefan
stefan.steurs@...
Feb 8, 2002 7:29 am
Hi, I agree with Brian but I once saw a presentation on a tool that allows to monitor the coverage of the code and goes on to suggest what combinations of ...
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Kumar, Mahesh
mahesh14
Feb 8, 2002 9:58 am
I would like to know, what are the different methods of doing Unit Testing ? There is ofcourse the J-Unit which is used to code testcases for a bit of code. Is...
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Ron Jeffries
ronaldejeffries
Feb 8, 2002 10:09 am
... Yes ... of course coverage comes in at least two forms, only one of which the tool can check. The other form of coverage that I have in mind is the choice...
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Batchu Venkataraman
ramanbv
Feb 8, 2002 10:34 am
Please unsubscribe me......... ... Yes ... of course coverage comes in at least two forms, only one of which the tool can check. The other form of coverage...
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STEURS Stefan
stefan.steurs@...
Feb 8, 2002 10:45 am
Hi, ... There is something like condition coverage and I suppose there are tools that test it (the one we use doesn't). ... Well, you may have intentions but...
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STEURS Stefan
stefan.steurs@...
Feb 8, 2002 10:49 am
Mahesh (I hope this is your firstname) Not to confuse you. A method is not a tool. A tool usually supports one or more method (hopefully ;-) ). There are lots...
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ihehappen
Feb 8, 2002 11:56 am
Well I'm looking at this as a tester who is willing to adopt a good practice from XP and is then seeking to re-evaluate the testing tools/techniques available...
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Brian Marick
briandawnpau...
Feb 8, 2002 10:12 pm
... I think all test design techniques are heuristic, so there are only un-ideal ways to evaluate the completeness of tests. There are ways that are objective,...
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geektank
Feb 9, 2002 7:21 pm
... Unsubscribing is pretty easy, just click: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/agile-testing/ and then click leave group. or send an email to: ...
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Michele Marchesi
michelediee
Feb 10, 2002 1:37 pm
***** XP2002 - CALL FOR PRACTITIONER'S REPORTS ***** 3rd International Conference on eXtreme Programming and Agile Processes in Software Engineering - XP2002 ...
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Kumar, Mahesh
mahesh14
Feb 11, 2002 4:53 am
First of all Thanks a LOT Stefan, for your reply. I am into testing Frameworks or formless components and the development environment is Visual Studio 6.0. The...
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STEURS Stefan
stefan.steurs@...
Feb 11, 2002 6:54 am
Mahesh, I'd say yes. Method coverage is perhaps the first hurdle to tackle. If you are able to do it you will know that your test framework is usable and that...
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Kumar, Mahesh
mahesh14
Feb 11, 2002 8:55 am
Hi, I have a Class, an instance of which I need to test. Now, the object instance has say, 45 attributes. The Class supports a Query() method that...
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STEURS Stefan
stefan.steurs@...
Feb 11, 2002 10:06 am
Hi, Many database implementations have business rules that gouvern the possibilities to create, update, retrieve, and delete data. For instance when you create...
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Ron Jeffries
ronaldejeffries
Feb 11, 2002 10:51 am
... I can think of two other ways: 1. Ask yourself why one object has 45 (!) attributes. Find a way to break the object down into several objects. The...
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sherri.rieck@...
parkerty
Feb 19, 2002 6:56 pm
Hi, The group I currently work in is planning on moving from the Waterfall model of development to the Agile method. Our test engineering group has not worked...
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Bret Pettichord
bret@...
Feb 20, 2002 4:00 am
Sherri, "Agile" is a rather broad label for a number of development methodologies. I would be interested to know more about exactly how your developers are ...
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pschrier@...
plschrier
Feb 20, 2002 8:35 am
Hi Sherry, 'Agile' is a family of software engineering development approaches. Some members of this family: DSDM, Scrum, XP, Crystal Clear (which is a whole ...
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Shalev, Gal
gal.shalev@...
Feb 20, 2002 4:49 pm
Hi, We are currently in the process of understanding how to test an Application Sharing feature. I would be glad to get some info regarding possible tests...
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Michael Bolton
mb@...
Feb 21, 2002 4:18 am
I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "an application sharing feature"--but I'd like to understand clearly. Could you provide a little more detail? Are...
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lisa_crispin2001
lisa_crispin...
Feb 21, 2002 6:08 pm
Hi Sherri, Welcome to the group! You have a lot of challenges ahead of you, but many excellent resources in this mailing list! I posted some articles and...
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chiku_moon
Mar 1, 2002 9:58 am
HI All, I am very new to Automated Testing Tools. I am working for such a company which can not afford Win Runner or Rational. So I tried to use WAS...
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hubertsmits@...
brasspounder...
Mar 1, 2002 10:10 am
Hi Parag, What we did is using WAS to enter parameters on the web-pages, then have the tool hit the 'search' button. We choose our parameters in such a way...
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STEURS Stefan
stefan.steurs@...
Mar 1, 2002 1:52 pm
Eddington, Sir Arthur (1882-1944) b. England Let us suppose that an ichthyologist is exploring the life of the ocean. He casts a net into the water and brings...
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Ron Jeffries
ronaldejeffries
Mar 1, 2002 2:36 pm
... How can you be sure you're not shrugging and turning away in the spirit of the ichthyologist, rather than in the spirit of Eddington? Ron Jeffries ...
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Buster Quin
buster.quin@...
Mar 1, 2002 2:43 pm
I like the analogy as a jumping off point for thinking about other participants in a "fishing expedition" (test execution). What does the ichthyologist/tester...
