Hello Alain ... I am very thankful that you have identified what I took offense to, and apologised for it. Although I do have a tendency to lash out at ...
3507
Jeff Patton
jeff621
Jun 5, 2007 1:17 am
All, I've been away (literally and figuratively) lately and notice this discussion roaring along for the last couple weeks. I still haven't read all the back...
3508
Owen Thomas
owen_paul_th...
Jun 5, 2007 4:37 am
Hello Alain. ... and ... at ... What do you think it was about working from home that made you think you were becoming out of touch with your coworkers? Did...
3509
Owen Thomas
owen_paul_th...
Jun 5, 2007 4:52 am
... available on ... of ... the ... back in ... Jack, I take it, is prepared to talk to you in ten seconds then? Isn't this just the circumstance for the...
3510
Ron Jeffries
ronaldejeffries
Jun 5, 2007 10:21 am
... When I meet Chet and we work together at the coffee shop, even if we are working on separate things, we are saying things and bring up ideas and issues...
3511
Owen Thomas
owen_paul_th...
Jun 5, 2007 11:36 am
Hello Adrian. ... a ... be ... Fair enough. I'm saying that this would be different for me. At least, in as much as the thought of being involved in collocated...
3512
Ron Jeffries
ronaldejeffries
Jun 5, 2007 12:00 pm
... Please explain clearly how it could be better for the customer to have you, a long way away, and someone just as good as you, right there. Ron Jeffries ...
3513
Ron Jeffries
ronaldejeffries
Jun 5, 2007 12:06 pm
... Sorry. Meant "rather than", not "and". Ron Jeffries www.XProgramming.com Steering is more important than speed, in driving and in software development....
3514
Owen Thomas
owen_paul_th...
Jun 5, 2007 12:44 pm
Hello Ron. ... least, ... (whether ... something ... right ... I probably can't. I don't have enough experience at managing personalities. I have already...
3515
Desilets, Alain
alain_desilets
Jun 5, 2007 1:37 pm
... Good question. I'm not sure why it was that I felt out of touch (I'm sure the litterature on colocated vs non-colocated would have something to say about...
3516
Ron Jeffries
ronaldejeffries
Jun 5, 2007 1:44 pm
... My point is that you, the remote guy, have to be somehow "better" than a local guy. If someone you want to work for can find someone who is "just as good"...
3517
White, Jeff
jawsadieemail
Jun 5, 2007 1:49 pm
To the list: it really seems ironic, this being an agile UCD list, that this discussion has been neither 'agile' nor user centered. I've completed a ton of...
3518
Desilets, Alain
alain_desilets
Jun 5, 2007 2:50 pm
Hi guys, As much as I have enjoyed this thread, I think it may be time to bring it to a close. Lots of really good points and views have been expressed and...
3519
Buck Calabro
starbuck5250
Jun 5, 2007 3:51 pm
... prove or ... -snip- ... I'm new to Agile too. Almost 30 years of mainframe, green screen, top down, waterfall, big database (multi-million row tables are...
3520
Jon Meads
jonmeads
Jun 5, 2007 4:10 pm
Owen, From the IRFU Rugby Union Laws, Law 20: The purpose of the scrum is to restart play quickly, safely and fairly, after a minor infringement or a ...
3521
Mark Schraad
mschraad333
Jun 5, 2007 4:17 pm
Not so much silos - but specialtis that the colaborative group defers to. I would not want the coders determining the interaction any more than I would want...
3522
chrs_mcmhn
Jun 5, 2007 5:17 pm
... Two things: I'm surprised no one has quoted Kent Beck, who routinely works remotely: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/extremeprogramming/message/119091 ...
3523
Desilets, Alain
alain_desilets
Jun 5, 2007 5:30 pm
... I think sitting together in one big room is better, all other things being equal. However, all other things are seldom equal. In my case, I want to live in...
3524
Owen Thomas
owen_paul_th...
Jun 6, 2007 12:23 am
Hello Dave ... I would agree with you on the default position here. I'll reiterate my earlier thoughts that appealing to the default position is what allowed ...
3525
Owen Thomas
owen_paul_th...
Jun 6, 2007 12:36 am
Hello Jeff ... I started this topic about a week ago shortly after I joined the group. I sincerely hope the topic is not too far from what is generally talked ...
3526
Owen Thomas
owen_paul_th...
Jun 6, 2007 12:42 am
Hello again Jeff ... I would positively endorse your sentiment. Believing that for a great number of activities, one does not have to be collocated to be ...
3527
Owen Thomas
owen_paul_th...
Jun 6, 2007 1:31 am
Had to make a correction to what I said in the message I sent below. Replace the phrase "I am" with "It is". ... But,...
3528
Owen Thomas
owen_paul_th...
Jun 6, 2007 1:47 am
Hello everyone. Thank you for being so willing to offer opinion from this group. I think the responsibility rests with me to say that I have had a great time...
3529
Desilets, Alain
alain_desilets
Jun 6, 2007 1:08 pm
... As a co-moderator of this list who's been watching the thread since the beginning, I would say that overall it has been useful discussion. Hell, this is...
3530
shane3797
Jun 6, 2007 9:31 pm
Hi All, It seems that agile development is putting a great deal of pressure on user research and usability testing. We have recently adopted scrum, and one of...
3531
chrs_mcmhn
Jun 6, 2007 11:09 pm
... One thing I saw just recently: my company releases code frequently to a staging environment. We run all of our business in this staging environment. We...
3532
Owen Thomas
owen_paul_th...
Jun 7, 2007 4:16 am
Hello again Alain (and Agile users) ... qualified and motivated individuals would do even better if they were co-located. But in most cases, the cost of...
3533
White, Jeff
jawsadieemail
Jun 7, 2007 2:19 pm
... <mailto:agile-usability%40yahoogroups.com> , "shane3797" <s.lovellette@...> ... I'm now nearing the end of my 2nd sprint with a scrum team. I'm an ...
3534
Jim
jkingsberg
Jun 7, 2007 6:16 pm
I wandering into the thread at the (apparent) end of it...absolutely agree with the usefulness AND question why on earth it took place in this group....
3535
Adrian Howard
ajh65537
Jun 7, 2007 9:40 pm
On 6 Jun 2007, at 14:08, Desilets, Alain wrote: [snip] ... [snip] agilemultisitedevelopment@yahoogroups.com would be another place. Adrian...
