Interesting question, Leina! How does your organization measure business value for the other stories in the queue? William...
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William Pietri
william_pietri
May 8, 2008 10:27 pm
... I think it emerges as part of planning and design. In that those are distributed throughout the process, I think vision is too. Some planning happens...
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leina elgohari
leina_elgohari
May 8, 2008 10:41 pm
The Client would supply the figures. So an example (developer) user story reads like so: As a trainer I want to present training courses So that Company Z can...
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George Dinwiddie
gdinwiddie
May 8, 2008 10:43 pm
... Bullshit! I'm and agilista and I claim that vision is crucial to project excellence, whether the project is run in an agile fashion or not. If you don't...
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Jared M. Spool
jmspool
May 8, 2008 10:51 pm
... Um, that sorta implies that lacking vision is more efficient than having vision, doesn't it? :) Jared...
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Darius Kumana
darius_kumana
May 8, 2008 11:05 pm
Hi all, As someone who champions user-experience within agile teams I think the issue of vision touches on a key dilemma. I find developers are often too...
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Jim Ungar
jmu270
May 8, 2008 11:05 pm
... So what was causing the pain, and how can designers adjust to new development methodologies without resorting to Big Design Up Front? I am an interaction...
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meszaros_susan
May 8, 2008 11:09 pm
... We do both...paper prototyping and also software prototyping (we use Axure RP Pro) prior to writing code, and then when the story is finished we usability...
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aacockburn
May 9, 2008 12:19 am
... Very important, occasionally documented as a practice, but still underutilized. Being underutilized doesn't mean it is not important. Alistair...
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Marji Dainty
oooomarjioooo
May 9, 2008 12:38 am
I have been watching these posts almost giddy as a child! How beautiful it is that all of these highly intelligent folks have loved to debate the role of...
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William Pietri
william_pietri
May 9, 2008 1:14 am
... Well, Leina, most of the teams I coach judge value intuitively or with proximate metrics, so take this with a grain of salt. If I had to justify usability...
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imaginethepoet
May 9, 2008 1:18 am
Hello Beth: Well, this is one of the big problem I encounter on several project teams. Sadly, it comes down to convincing your product owner / customer / BA...
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imaginethepoet
May 9, 2008 1:33 am
Would a headless system to an API really address usability? It seems like taking the solid programmatic approach to a design issue only caues usability issues....
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Ron Jeffries
ronaldejeffries
May 9, 2008 2:01 am
... Consider XP Practices: Whole Team, Open Workspace, Team Code Ownership ... The team that lives together, sees together. Ron Jeffries www.XProgramming.com ...
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Ron Jeffries
ronaldejeffries
May 9, 2008 2:02 am
... Customer determines stories based on (subjective) value. If they want a usability story, they'll schedule it. If they don't, they won't. Does that seem OK?...
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William Pietri
william_pietri
May 9, 2008 2:05 am
Hi, Susan. It sounds like we're on the same page. You made one point I wanted to amplify: ... I think that's exactly the right approach. Stories with stretchy ...
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David J Anderson
netherby_uk
May 9, 2008 4:09 am
The next APLN regional Leadership Summit will be held in Seattle on July 17-18 at The Edgewater hotel on Elliott Bay in downtown Seattle. [Sponsors to be...
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Jon Dickinson
jondig_2000
May 9, 2008 7:12 am
... I would contend that the vision should be initiated before a project is started, whether working on an agile project or not, otherwise how do you know...
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leina elgohari
leina_elgohari
May 9, 2008 8:26 am
I really wanted to keep the maths very very simple (ROI can make the maths complicated). I was toying around with Mynott C et al (1994) table showing the cost...
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JC Grosjean
jcgrosjean
May 9, 2008 9:06 am
Hi, Not very easy but a problematic that is more and more important since usability, interaction design and user experience seem now to be recognized by teams...
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Darius Kumana
darius_kumana
May 9, 2008 9:07 am
I would agree that high-level vision needs to be articulated up-front before a project (e.g. By C-level executives and Marketing Departments) – This...
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meszaros_susan
May 9, 2008 9:38 am
... And reduce stress as you point out above. Working closely together also results in mutual understanding and respect, and this works to reduce programmer...
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meszaros_susan
May 9, 2008 9:57 am
Looks pretty complicated to me...I don't understand the terminology (without seriously considering and reading it), so why would the customer understand? I...
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Pascal Roy
pascal_roy_1967
May 9, 2008 10:12 am
FYI, a project charter (be it in a document or in the collective minds of the team) embodies pretty well what you would typically like to know before a project...
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Desilets, Alain
alain_desilets
May 9, 2008 12:46 pm
... I think it's fair to say that *some* agilistas have that bias. But I'd say most of the figureheads in Agile believe it's important to have a clear vision....
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Desilets, Alain
alain_desilets
May 9, 2008 1:06 pm
Austin, I have read the first three of those links and I don't see them as saying that you can't or should not have a vision a priori. These postings are...
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Todd Zaki Warfel
toddwarfel
May 9, 2008 1:17 pm
... This is one of the beautiful things about agile—with the morning 15 minute stand ups or during the sprint planning session, typically every few weeks, if...
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Jared M. Spool
jmspool
May 9, 2008 3:13 pm
... I guess this gets down to the question of when does a project start? In our research, we consider the project starting with the formation of the vision,...
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aacockburn
May 9, 2008 3:48 pm
... In Industrial XP, there is a Chartering activity. In Crystal Clear there is the "Mission statement with trade-off priorities" work product. In Jim...
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aacockburn
May 9, 2008 3:55 pm
... My son just bought Civilization 4, and it comes with a video of the lead designers talking about how they developed it over a 3-4 year period. Just as you...
