... Not to ignore the rest of your post, but this particular question has been interesting to me lately. I "grew up" in the Smalltalk MVC era, 1987 - 1994,...
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Ron Jeffries
ronaldejeffries
Jul 30, 2008 1:52 am
Hello, aacockburn. On Tuesday, July 29, 2008, at 9:30:23 PM, you ... Yes. I do think that one has to think a bit about the "flow" of the app ... but I don't...
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Charles B. Kreitzberg
cbk780
Jul 30, 2008 2:01 am
Alistair: I think that building functionality without understanding how it will be used is problematic on many levels. I am not saying that you need to always ...
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William Pietri
william_pietri
Jul 30, 2008 2:03 am
... One of the things I love about Agile methods is that they dodge entirely the question of which specialty should come first. As far as I can tell, if...
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jonathan
g00mba_b0y
Jul 30, 2008 3:48 am
Considering that I am a member in good standing of Alistair's Voodoo Club, you'll have to take my input with a grain of salt, but I would certainly agree with...
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William Pietri
william_pietri
Jul 30, 2008 6:37 am
... For what it's worth, the opposite is true; people have also gotten in a lot of hot water by doing a lot of up-front front end design. I suspect that for...
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James Page
jamespagetemp
Jul 30, 2008 10:51 am
I think it is time to be a bit serious. As you both specialise in Vodoo usability we should debate if we should consider spirits in Usability. A bunch of UK's...
4895
aacockburn
Jul 30, 2008 2:35 pm
... Ah, that's different. I accidentally wrote UX and presentation layer in my post, then went back and deleted the UX and left only the presentation layer. My...
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aacockburn
Jul 30, 2008 2:37 pm
... Score! ROTFL. especially the "take his rum and chickens elsewhere" :) I may have to print that one out......
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aacockburn
Jul 30, 2008 2:44 pm
... Creating personas for spirits is easy - just make a visit to an old-style tavern (or Beitz if you are in Switzerland) and sit at the round table in the...
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William Pietri
william_pietri
Jul 30, 2008 3:56 pm
... It would seem to me that you can only get away with this in software where neither the presentation layer nor feedback from live users significantly...
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jonathan
g00mba_b0y
Jul 30, 2008 4:21 pm
Well, I never really considered myself a specialist in Voodoo Usability prior to this, but I'm going to happily adopt the moniker and immediately start bugging...
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Scott Preece
sepreece
Jul 30, 2008 5:10 pm
Hi, The Seeheim Architecture divides things into Presentation, Dialog, and Application - the first is largely visual, the second is about interaction flow, the...
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Scott Preece
sepreece
Jul 30, 2008 5:28 pm
On the other hand, imagination is an important tool - one has to imagine how a proposed change in methods will work in the context of the domain problems,...
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Jared Spool
jmspool
Jul 30, 2008 9:15 pm
Coming in to this thread a little late... ... It's been my experience that too many people believe that the presentation layer is the only thing that affects...
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Nick Gassman
netwizuk
Jul 30, 2008 9:39 pm
... Or else you are working to 'what do we think the user wants to do at this moment', and you don't have any visuals to help you imagine what their experience...
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William Pietri
william_pietri
Jul 31, 2008 5:18 am
I suppose if you'd like to interpret my words in that way, you'd be welcome to, but as I said, I didn't mean it a harsh way. Let me give an example, using...
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James Page
jamespagetemp
Jul 31, 2008 9:44 am
If you take the meaning of Agile then it means been able to change fast in a graceful manner. There is nothing stopping you having beautiful screen designs at...
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aacockburn
Jul 31, 2008 3:13 pm
... I'll bite that bait ... it's a lot faster to change directions if you don't have to change both the visuals and the application logic. Alistair...
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Robert Biddle
robtbiddle
Jul 31, 2008 3:33 pm
It occurs to me there is no one right answer to this, because good products can start from anywhere. In the HCI world, it is common to mock the approach where...
4908
aacockburn
Jul 31, 2008 4:37 pm
... Thanks, Robert, you are of course correct. To get back to the point I was trying to raise ... ... I am presenting here, not a problem to be solved, but a...
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Lacroix, Eric
eric.lacroix
Jul 31, 2008 5:29 pm
Does anyone as any documentation regarding best practice related to mandatory field. Ex: * Name: [ ] * Name (Required): [ ] Name...
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Michael Brown
m1kegbrown
Jul 31, 2008 6:35 pm
Luke W at yahoo covers this in his form design best practices www.lukew.com/resources/articles/WebForms_LukeW.pdf ... mandatory field. ... using the same font...
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thebilbos
Jul 31, 2008 6:35 pm
I'm looking for some input on the proper location for a "Print page" link on a web page/form. We have historically put this link in the upper right hand corner...
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Vijay Hanumolu
vijju2k
Jul 31, 2008 7:30 pm
In my web designs I generally group the print options with other contextual options like download or contextual help on the page. The action buttons have a...
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James Page
jamespagetemp
Jul 31, 2008 8:10 pm
... Why? When you are building an api you are building a set of rules for other components to talk to your component. Rules are hard to change. If you are just...
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James Page
jamespagetemp
Jul 31, 2008 8:41 pm
Charlie, One way of looking at your Lucid Framework would be to apply some test cases to it. These tests could also be used to test Alistair's API first ...
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meszaros_susan
Jul 31, 2008 9:52 pm
We have ongoing similar problems in the web application we're developing, and unless there is an obvious usability standard to follow, we spend a little bit of...
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Larry Constantine
lconstantine@...
Aug 1, 2008 12:39 am
Picking up on William Pietri's comments: In many countries and even a few states of the U.S., terms like software engineer and information architect are...
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aacockburn
Aug 1, 2008 1:55 am
I'm sorry, the logic was too broken in that post for me to attempt a response. I stand by what I wrote. Alistair ... change both ... for other ... will not ......
