... Agreed. And Robert talked about close collaboration, and that will also contribute. I'm just starting with this stuff, and trying to figure out how it ...
... Let me put that simpler. Two principles of Agile is "Deliver working software frequently, from a couple of weeks to a couple of ... How is an API working...
... I believe you may not understand the phrase "working software" and may be conflating it with the idea of "completely finished software application". Agile...
Ron: I think we have been here before. It seems to be that you are using a narrower idea of "working software" than is necessarily appropriate for the ...
Ron, Thank you for that I was not been clear. Alistair I think was arguing that it was more Agile to go API first as if there was a change there would be ...
Hello, Robert. On Friday, August 1, 2008, at 8:30:42 AM, you ... On the contrary. The OP asserted that a fully working API did not count as "working...
... Ah, OK. I think we mostly agree. In any case, minimization of change is not a core strategy for Agile, though it is certainly a valuable consideration. It...
Well, Ron did say, at a couple of places in the note, that he thought it was better to develop both API and UI at the same time. Developing the API alone is a...
... Coming as I do from a UCD perspective, I agree with this. In prioritising work, and making progress, there may well be occasions where the business...
*Hi* ** ... This is so very true to my field of work. I work in EDA domain which essentially creates products used in electronics design and 90% of our work...
I may have this wrong, but isn't the idea of naked objects that the UI is automatically generated from the domain object. So you end up with a User Interface...
Hi Jared: You said: < It's been my experience that too many people believe that the presentation layer is the only thing that affects the user experience. Good...
Hello, James. On Friday, August 1, 2008, at 10:10:18 AM, you ... No, not at all, in that they both come about at the same time. But the investment in UI is...
... Perhaps someone else reading can spot where the disconnect is between what James is seeing and what I'm seeing. It evidently is clear and simple to each of...
... As always, nice points. I'd like to pick up on them because they very much relate to what I'm saying, and also the old Smalltalk Transcript-window style of...
... You hit the key phrase, there, Scott ... the question really is which is faster to iterate with in any particular situation. Sometimes it's use cases,...
It would concern me that if you change the sequence so all the underpinnings are done first and the UX is done at the end, that means the UX is exposed to the...
... I amend my asnwer to Scott to pick up Pankaj's points. It's not just which is faster to iterate, but it is also all those things Pankaj points to. Sorry...
... And speaking of this, Yahoo Groups did an insane thing a couple of years ago ... it used to be that the top link below a posting was the posting it...
... underpinnings are done first and the UX is done at the end, that means the UX is exposed to the users over fewer iterations. Since I normally think that...
Although I agree totally that leading with UI is not always right, I'm having trouble with this particular line of argument: ... I don't buy either of those,...
Hi Everyone: I was thinking that rather than focusing on the question: "Does Ux (or UI) design lead or follow" a more productive question might be: "What...
... I think this is the sort of discussion where, to be honest, it gets really difficult to resolve by email, and you need to get into a room with a flipchart....
... I think it is true about the people and their behaviors, but I think it has little to do with the agile philosophy, and I'd argue that it often is...
... That may be true for some organizations, but not all. My clients all do this on a continuous, agile basis. E.g., they continually watch the competition,...
... I guess what I'm trying to steer this group away from is arguments of the form of "I've never tried Guiness because I don't like it." (an old Guiness ad). ...
