... I done already wrote it up like that: Humans, collaborating to write a Web site, most frequently want to upload simple paragraphs of text, containing a few...
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Petteri Hiisilä
ph_fin
Sep 1, 2004 11:35 am
... Yes, Wiki is a great, very goal-oriented piece of invention. Someone must have had a goal-directed mind to come up with something like that. We use it as...
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Desilets, Alain
alain_desilets
Sep 1, 2004 12:37 pm
-- [Phlip] Humans, collaborating to write a Web site, most frequently want to upload simple paragraphs of text, containing a few markup codes and links to...
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Petteri Hiisilä
ph_fin
Sep 1, 2004 12:47 pm
... Good, thoughtful views. I must read Hugh's presentation. Is it available online? What do you think about Dave's article? I think it touches this...
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Ron Jeffries
ronaldejeffries
Sep 1, 2004 1:55 pm
... Well, yes, but I programmed a wiki from scratch in about the time it took to read about this. :) Ron Jeffries www.XProgramming.com You keep using that...
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Desilets, Alain
alain_desilets
Sep 1, 2004 2:30 pm
... From: Petteri Hiisilä [mailto:petteri.hiisila@...] Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 7:48 AM To: agile-usability@yahoogroups.com Subject:...
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Petteri Hiisilä
ph_fin
Sep 1, 2004 2:46 pm
... second trait with CD. It does :) GDD and CD have a lot in common. Both work, and to my personal experience, they complement each other nicely. My...
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Petteri Hiisilä
ph_fin
Sep 1, 2004 2:47 pm
... took ... - ph...
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Dave Cronin
davcron
Sep 1, 2004 5:43 pm
Not that I'm speaking for Alan or anything, but since I work here at ... Around here, we generally believe that while iteration development may be a highly...
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William Pietri
william_pietri
Sep 1, 2004 5:55 pm
... Interesting! That's a different impression than I had from, say, reading the interactions between Cooper and Beck. What bad effects have you seen from...
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Dave Cronin
davcron
Sep 1, 2004 6:58 pm
Most of the bad effects that we've seen from running research and the initial design phase (what we call the "Interaction Framework") alongside development...
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Phlip
phlipcpp
Sep 1, 2004 8:09 pm
... Did I say that? ===== Phlip http://industrialxp.org/community/bin/view/Main/TestFirstUserInterfaces __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? ...
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Petteri Hiisilä
ph_fin
Sep 1, 2004 8:32 pm
... I'm afraid you did :) I don't know if you really meant that, though... But you left us with an impression that you did :) - Petteri...
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Phlip
phlipcpp
Sep 1, 2004 8:55 pm
... I said, "I propose (entirely to make everyone need to hire more programmers like me) that programs should version with skins, so each user population gets...
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Hugh Beyer
hughrbeyer
Sep 1, 2004 9:40 pm
From: Petteri Hiisilä [mailto:petteri.hiisila@...] Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 8:48 AM To: agile-usability@yahoogroups.com Subject:...
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Hugh Beyer
hughrbeyer
Sep 1, 2004 9:40 pm
Yes, Wiki is a great, very goal-oriented piece of invention. Someone must have had a goal-directed mind to come up with something like that. We use it as our...
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Jeff Patton
jeff621
Sep 1, 2004 9:51 pm
_____ From: Ron Jeffries [mailto:ronjeffries@...] Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 8:29 AM To: agile-usability@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re:...
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William Pietri
william_pietri
Sep 1, 2004 9:54 pm
... Interesting. My experience so far has been that if things like architecture and data model are built in an agile, incremental fashion and the most...
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Ron Jeffries
ronaldejeffries
Sep 1, 2004 10:16 pm
... I'm not sure that is the question, but I accept that it is /a/ question. My point was that the process Petteri described took a long time just to describe,...
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Lauren Berry
lol_berry
Sep 1, 2004 10:20 pm
... yet it ... the ... I think this is a very relevant comment. would your user rather have a "pretty good" product (in terms of usability) now, or an...
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Keith Nicholas
keithatcompac
Sep 1, 2004 10:35 pm
Some stuff you can go right ahead and develop and have working software very quickly, however this often has a low amount of invention. We have a vision...
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Dave Cronin
davcron
Sep 1, 2004 11:05 pm
Yeah, I meant those examples as anecdotal, not necessarily universal. I entirely agree that it depends a lot on the complexity of the project and the skill...
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Frank Maurer
frankomaurer
Sep 1, 2004 11:32 pm
From: Lauren Berry [mailto:laurenb@...] Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 4:20 PM To: agile-usability@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE:...
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Jeff Patton
jeff621
Sep 2, 2004 1:00 am
... question. I probably should have read the original question. ;-) ... just to ... would ... end of ... believe the ... I'd agree. I spent the better part...
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Lauren Berry
lol_berry
Sep 2, 2004 3:16 am
[Frank Maurer] versus business value (the focus of the agile community). [Lauren] i'd say the focus of EVERY bussiness - surely? ... From: Frank Maurer...
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Jon Kern
jonkernpa
Sep 2, 2004 4:22 am
Messagei'll exhibit poor etiquette here by doing a cannonball into this long thread. (Been so busy i am 200+ unread posts behind... and the topic was a ...
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Petteri Hiisilä
ph_fin
Sep 2, 2004 8:59 am
... Yes, I spend most of my time either talking to end users or thinking about their goals. And also I spend most of my time talking to engineers. As I wrote...
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Petteri Hiisilä
ph_fin
Sep 2, 2004 9:44 am
Hi, *Let's do a little test:* 1. Think of some real-life situation that happens quite often to quite many people. 2. Who are those people? What are their...
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Keith Nicholas
keith.nicholas@...
Sep 2, 2004 12:16 pm
This is what XP is.... fufill a real need - Story scheduled by customer lots of thinking about design expressed as deliverable software Only difference...
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Desilets, Alain
alain_desilets
Sep 2, 2004 12:43 pm
[Alain] ... it ... [Lauren] I think this is a very relevant comment. would your user rather have a "pretty good" product (in terms of usability) now, or an...