Hello, Adam. On Wednesday, December 31, 2008, at 11:11:46 PM, you ... I doubt whether money has that much to do with it. Willingness to move might actually be...
Hello, Owen. On Wednesday, December 31, 2008, at 8:51:37 PM, you ... It was a metaphor aimed at getting you to think differently about collocation. It failed...
Hello, Adam. On Thursday, January 1, 2009, at 2:06:14 AM, you ... All of them? Ron Jeffries www.XProgramming.com www.xprogramming.com/blog Think! -- Aretha...
On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 2:04 AM, Ron Jeffries ... No. Of course not. I'm just saying that the desire to work in isolation is something that I have observed in...
... I agree that for some circumstances, this is not an unreasonable tradeoff. Just as long as people are aware of what they're trading. It's very rare for me...
Hello, Adam. On Thursday, January 1, 2009, at 5:20:39 AM, you ... There are lots of home workers. Phone sales people, phone support, free lance writers and...
I was trying to get a clarification on your point. You seem to deem colocation as the preferred way to develop. You then cited the following practices as...
Hello, mark. On Thursday, January 1, 2009, at 12:04:46 PM, you ... You didn't. The OP seemed to think that only programmers want to work at home. I gave...
... There's lots of references to this workshop before the fact, but I'm not finding anything about outcomes -- did anyone on this list attend, or otherwise...
On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 5:26 AM, Ron Jeffries ... Fair enough. I guess I'm really conflating two things: The desire to "work at home" and the desire to do...
... P.S. the part that strikes me as somewhat unique to software developers is, "My IRC/AIM/MSN/Yahoo!/forum/email/Yammer/etc. is even better than being there;...
Hello, Adam. On Thursday, January 1, 2009, at 8:12:05 PM, you ... I don't see how you put together an acknowledgement that software development is a social...
On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 7:03 PM, Ron Jeffries ... Because, in my brain software development is not a singular activity. My earlier comments made the assumption...
On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 7:43 PM, Ron Jeffries ... It might be that I am "arguing" with myself ;-) /I am willing to recognize that it is more similar than I...
This email thread is, itself, an argument against the supposed virtues of remote working. So many misunderstandings, misinterpretations and misidentifications...
Hello Adam, Ron. ... I don't think I do a bad job most times with communicating at a distance. Sometimes I am embarrassingly bad at getting my points across. ...
Hi Ron. ... where ... Ron, I don't think you'll get me to think differently about (what I am now calling, in respect of what I have just read from CSCW 2008) ...
Hi Adam ... Yes, I have heard about that. I may, as you suggest, not have given an ideal analogy. My impressions are that no occupation wouldn't benefit to ...
... This would only be true if such mistakes were not also common in proximate communication, and if this forum were typical of the kind of virtual collocation...
... Yes. I can't think of an occupation that wouldn't benefit from some form of collaboration. I can even think of some where remote might be nearly as good as...
... In theory, yes, but doesn't that limit the range of the collocatees (?) to a small range of time zones? Or at least a shared "working" time period? -- ...
... Irrespective of my position of co- vs "no-" location, I have to disagree with this premise. I work remotely, but achieve co-location via phone, IM, Yammer,...
Hi, Owen. I think this is a topic where we'll never agree, but since you keep coming back to it, I wanted to try to explain why, in hopes that we can have new...
Yes, time zones are a problem. In practice, you either limit your interaction with specific groups to specific parts of the day or somebody shifts his or her...
Even if teams worked in the same building, in the age of hot-desking where they are oftentimes required to move to new locations (withing the same...
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