All: some self promotion here - but I believe it's relevant to this group. Tomorrow, Wed Mar 4th, I'll be presenting a 90 minute web seminar on agile...
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linda.hellman
Mar 4, 2009 3:51 pm
Hi, I'm writing my Master's Thesis at the moment and in my Thesis I'm trying to find the biggest problems between the two methods and then to integrate Scrum...
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Mike Dwyer
protraveler1
Mar 4, 2009 5:29 pm
Linda There should be little problem if you understand that Scrum can be used in both iterative and incremental work. The real issue is making sure that you ...
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Marjorie H Pries
marjoriepries
Mar 4, 2009 5:56 pm
Linda, To clarify, SCRUM is a method for delivering working software, UCD is not a method but a collection of techniques to determine software requirements and...
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Daniel Naumann
danielnaumann
Mar 4, 2009 9:47 pm
Hi Linda, One of the bigger issues that I see and read about is the 'How much up-front design?' issue. UCD likes a lot of up-front design and Scrum/Agile only...
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Robert Biddle
robtbiddle
Mar 5, 2009 12:57 pm
There are a number of ways the UCD-Agile connection is being made, and I guess Linda wanted to hear reports of experience in the various approaches. I haven't...
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Marjorie H Pries
marjoriepries
Mar 6, 2009 6:41 pm
Hi Robert, Yes, I see.. Thanks for pointing that out. I lost track of the "writing a Masters thesis" bit and went off on my own tangent because I have a lot of...
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Robert Biddle
robtbiddle
Mar 7, 2009 5:45 pm
... Ok, I understand that. I'm not in complete agreement, but I think we may be using words differently. For example, I think UI people need skills and...
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William Pietri
william_pietri
Mar 7, 2009 6:20 pm
... Hi, Linda. This may be a slightly more philosophical answer than you want, but I think one important set of issues can be summed up by Voltaire's maxim,...
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Srinivas Manda
laksinu
Mar 9, 2009 9:31 pm
Hello Everyone... I am referring to the model that is given in UIE Virtual Seminar The Essentials of Agile Development that is given by Jeff recently... (SLIDE...
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William Pietri
william_pietri
Mar 9, 2009 9:38 pm
... My easy three-step solution: 1. Put everybody in the same room. 2. When designers design, encourage them to frequently get feedback from the developers. 3....
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Srinivas Manda
laksinu
Mar 9, 2009 11:27 pm
Thanks William, the problem is in Agile you know that we always buy stories and work on them in sprints ... designers always do early designs so that it can...
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Mike Dwyer
protraveler1
Mar 9, 2009 11:41 pm
What do you mean when you say 'buy stories'. I am unfamiliar with that term. It sounds like you have a supplier vendor relationship instead of a ...
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William Pietri
william_pietri
Mar 10, 2009 12:54 am
... I agree with your general thrust, Mike: a collaborative relationship is the only way to go. One quibble, though. Personally, I use the "buy stories"...
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Srinivas Manda
laksinu
Mar 10, 2009 12:58 am
Thanks Mike .... in a project we usually take all the features and build them in the form of " user stories" and place all of these stories in the project...
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William Pietri
william_pietri
Mar 10, 2009 1:04 am
The way I normally apply Agile methods, teams work on things together. If your product needs developers and designers, I think they should be on the same team....
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Mike Dwyer
protraveler1
Mar 10, 2009 2:17 am
I use the same terms and the same words (sans buy) to do something a bit different. All stories accepted into a sprint/iteration must be completed within that ...
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Mike Dwyer
protraveler1
Mar 10, 2009 2:21 am
To put forth an even more fundamental notion William. A team begins as a collection of people whose skills and motivation can deliver value. As the ...
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Adrian Howard
ajh65537
Mar 10, 2009 5:16 am
... ++ to that. Adrian...
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Srinivas Manda
laksinu
Mar 10, 2009 12:51 pm
I agree to what you say , I would love to have Developers / Designers to be in the same team but it is not possible once example as i said earlier ... if...
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foruse1
Mar 10, 2009 2:50 pm
Very interesting dialog looking at the design-view/developer-view issues at: ...
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William Pietri
william_pietri
Mar 10, 2009 5:06 pm
... In that case, are you sure you should be using an Agile approach? It doesn't sound like your environment is a good fit. I'd recommend looking at some other...
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Ron Jeffries
ronaldejeffries
Mar 10, 2009 5:17 pm
Hello, Srinivas. On Tuesday, March 10, 2009, at 8:51:00 AM, you ... Why? Are some of them in prison? ... Yes. This is an obstacle. You must remove it. Ron...
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Srinivas Manda
laksinu
Mar 10, 2009 6:18 pm
Thanks everyone for your input... will make it as a mandit to include developers in my initial design meetings and will say this will be a roadblock if not...
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Nancy Frishberg
frishbergnancy
Mar 10, 2009 6:38 pm
Srinivas (and all), I as a UX team member would want to get user input in a variety of ways. Usability evaluation is a good one, and with a coordinated team, ...
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Mike Dwyer
protraveler1
Mar 10, 2009 6:50 pm
WHOA! Look dude, Ron was being very nice. We are not talking about letting developers in to the initial design meetings. Agile is about everyone being...
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Srinivas Manda
laksinu
Mar 10, 2009 9:02 pm
Nancy... when I refer to the product backlog , all the stories that are there in the product backlog came from users and those are what users asked for .....
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Srinivas Manda
laksinu
Mar 10, 2009 9:22 pm
Mike, we as a team are still trying to understand Agile, and we are working based on how easy it is for us that suites our working model. Agile says that we...
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Nancy Frishberg
frishbergnancy
Mar 10, 2009 10:03 pm
Srinivas, May I suggest Desiree Sy's article if you haven't seen it yet? http://www.usabilityprofessionals.org/upa_publications/jus/2007may/agile-ucd.pdf ...
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Mike Dwyer
protraveler1
Mar 11, 2009 12:28 am
First why is it that the people would not stay in the same place? Second how often have you seen this happen. You desing a UI and the user love it, the...
