Hi all, I'd like to get your opinion on a question of weather it is appropriate to place something on a live site for sole purpose of gathering click-through...
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Georgi Varzonovtsev
georgivar
Aug 15, 2011 2:02 pm
Maybe it would be a better option to do A/B testing or multivariate testing with Google website optimizer or similar tool. It allows you to present different...
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desireesy
Aug 15, 2011 4:12 pm
... In case this isn't clear, Jared, the 'charter' is a lightweight way of doing that upfront definition of project scope that you indicated in your original...
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Jon Innes
jinnes
Aug 15, 2011 5:34 pm
Sorry to jump in so late on this one, but seeing how thread is going I want to raise couple of important points here: 1) If the business feels that the...
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Mike Dwyer
protraveler1
Aug 15, 2011 6:03 pm
ARGH!!!!!! There is no such thing as scope creep in Agile and particularly Scrum. New stuff, when it appears, must be evaluated by Product Owners to see if...
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Carol Smith
caroljacobss...
Aug 15, 2011 6:20 pm
Hello Maria, The A/B testing Georgi suggests would be a much better approach with one (or more) improved designs against the existing one. There is a risk...
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Jon Innes
jinnes
Aug 15, 2011 6:58 pm
Exactly. Not disagreeing at all. Just pointing out that if you don't track all the factors you're lacking the full picture. If user research shows users can't...
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desireesy
Aug 15, 2011 7:25 pm
... not ... which ... interactive ... team ... are a ... you're doing is just plain old "prototyping" :-) ... prototyping." That is, we aim for the lowest...
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desireesy
Aug 15, 2011 10:28 pm
What Jon said, although I agree with Mike that perhaps we should have made your point -- there is no scope creep, only the current, updated scope -- more...
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Adam Sroka
adamjaph
Aug 15, 2011 10:56 pm
I agree, but I would go a step further: UX work is more challenging that most business domain programming because usability is somewhat subjective and testing...
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Maria Gililova
maria_gililova
Aug 16, 2011 6:56 am
Thank you, Carol and Georgi. I agree with the downside of adding the links and have, instead, been proposing A/B testing with an improved design as well. I...
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Mairi Reyer
mairi_reyer
Aug 16, 2011 6:56 am
What are your personal favorite online user testing tools? I've used the Optimal Sort tools and am trying out fivesecondtest.com, but I'm interested in what...
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Adrian Howard
ajh65537
Aug 16, 2011 8:18 am
Hi Desirée! On 15 Aug 2011, at 20:25, desireesy wrote: [snip] ... [snip] Being extra niggly - I'd maybe rephrase the goal of "lowest possible fidelity of" as...
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Adrian Howard
ajh65537
Aug 16, 2011 8:54 am
... It's not a problem unique to usability testing either. I've seen exactly the same prioritisation / value / delivery issue come up when people with a new...
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Justin Tauber
justaube
Aug 16, 2011 10:12 am
Hi all, <preamble> I've been lurking for a while... absolutely love this list, though I am very much a newbie to agile. The list has been very quiet lately, so...
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Maria Gililova
maria_gililova
Aug 16, 2011 12:31 pm
Usertesting.com Sent from my iPhone ... Usertesting.com Sent from my iPhone On Aug 15, 2011, at 6:06 PM, Mairi Reyer < mreyer@... > wrote: What are your...
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Jon Kern
jonkernpa
Aug 16, 2011 1:18 pm
Ask the customer what "done" is... More importantly is the reason why you should care about knowing what "done" means... jon blog: http://technicaldebt.com ...
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Jeff Wall
jmwall67
Aug 16, 2011 1:45 pm
You can have a Definition of Done based upon what the customer wants/needs. But our Definition of Done is internal, and the customer never sees it. It is all...
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Vijay Hanumolu
vijju2k
Aug 16, 2011 2:15 pm
It really depends what you are trying to do, some of the tools we have looked in the past for online testing: loop11 <http://www.loop11.com/> and a whole list...
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Carol Smith
caroljacobss...
Aug 16, 2011 2:15 pm
Un-moderated testing limits your ability to find out why people are doing what they are doing, so I recommend moderating at least some of your tests. For...
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Joshua Kerievsky
jlk112067
Aug 16, 2011 2:15 pm
... I blogged about the Definition of Done here: http://bit.ly/9KrweH -- best, jk -- Joshua Kerievsky Founder, CEO Industrial Logic, Inc. Web:...
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HRB
hughrbeyer
Aug 16, 2011 2:39 pm
I think the question of scope creep is real, even for an Agile project. Yeah, in theory the point of Agile is to expand or change the scope whenever your user...
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Adrian Howard
ajh65537
Aug 17, 2011 8:40 am
Hi Justin, ... [snip] My preferred definition of done is: When everybody on the team agrees that the story is done I'm not trying to avoid the question -...
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Jeremy Kriegel
sonojerarc
Aug 17, 2011 12:23 pm
There are a lot of components to done, coded, tested, etc. As a UX practitioner, I'll focus on the quality aspect as it relates to our work. Based on the...
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Gene Arch
pianomann81
Aug 17, 2011 1:33 pm
I must respectfully disagree with you, Adrian. The definition you espouse seems to take the work outside of the iteration, which to me seems to make it harder...
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Anders Ramsay
andersmatic
Aug 17, 2011 2:08 pm
There is no one correct definition of a story being Done. Anyone looking for that definition has misunderstood what Done is about. Done is a judgment call...
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Michael James
michaeljames...
Aug 17, 2011 2:36 pm
I agree there's no one definition that works for all teams. Teams and POs have to work together to find the right one for their products. The discussion is...
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Jeremy Kriegel
sonojerarc
Aug 17, 2011 2:37 pm
... for that definition has misunderstood what Done is about. Agree to an extent. It changes based on the story. However, there are characteristics of done. ...
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Gene Arch
pianomann81
Aug 17, 2011 3:26 pm
I agree with both of you - the team must agree on what is "done," and every team's definition will be different. I was mainly concerned about that definition...
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Justin Tauber
justaube
Aug 17, 2011 4:17 pm
Thanks for all the responses, they've been really useful. I get the impressions that there a few different concepts that need unpacking here: * Done for an...
