I agree, but I would go a step further: UX work is more challenging that most business domain programming because usability is somewhat subjective and testing...
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desireesy
Aug 15, 2011 10:28 pm
What Jon said, although I agree with Mike that perhaps we should have made your point -- there is no scope creep, only the current, updated scope -- more...
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desireesy
Aug 15, 2011 7:25 pm
... not ... which ... interactive ... team ... are a ... you're doing is just plain old "prototyping" :-) ... prototyping." That is, we aim for the lowest...
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Jon Innes
jinnes
Aug 15, 2011 6:58 pm
Exactly. Not disagreeing at all. Just pointing out that if you don't track all the factors you're lacking the full picture. If user research shows users can't...
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Carol Smith
caroljacobss...
Aug 15, 2011 6:20 pm
Hello Maria, The A/B testing Georgi suggests would be a much better approach with one (or more) improved designs against the existing one. There is a risk...
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Mike Dwyer
protraveler1
Aug 15, 2011 6:03 pm
ARGH!!!!!! There is no such thing as scope creep in Agile and particularly Scrum. New stuff, when it appears, must be evaluated by Product Owners to see if...
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Jon Innes
jinnes
Aug 15, 2011 5:34 pm
Sorry to jump in so late on this one, but seeing how thread is going I want to raise couple of important points here: 1) If the business feels that the...
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desireesy
Aug 15, 2011 4:12 pm
... In case this isn't clear, Jared, the 'charter' is a lightweight way of doing that upfront definition of project scope that you indicated in your original...
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Georgi Varzonovtsev
georgivar
Aug 15, 2011 2:02 pm
Maybe it would be a better option to do A/B testing or multivariate testing with Google website optimizer or similar tool. It allows you to present different...
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Maria
maria_gililova
Aug 15, 2011 1:47 pm
Hi all, I'd like to get your opinion on a question of weather it is appropriate to place something on a live site for sole purpose of gathering click-through...
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Gene Arch
pianomann81
Aug 15, 2011 1:24 pm
Thanks John and Adrian! I'll check out those books! ________________________________ From: agile-usability@yahoogroups.com ...
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Adrian Howard
ajh65537
Aug 15, 2011 7:57 am
On 15 Aug 2011, at 04:17, <john@...> <john@...> wrote: [snip] ... I'm going to niggle and say that if you're not using paper then what you're doing...
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john@...
jvschrag
Aug 15, 2011 3:34 am
On 2011-08-12, at 11:47 AM, Gene Arch wrote: John, I like the idea of the trade-off matrix. I hadn't heard it explained that way. I don't mean to threadjack,...
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Mouneer Rabie
mouneerr
Aug 13, 2011 12:41 am
In a fixed time and/or fixed "scope" projects the struggle is to attempt to fit as many features as possible within the pre-set time span, and to guess the...
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Michael James
michaeljames...
Aug 12, 2011 6:57 pm
... Yeah, pretty much. New product development is more about knowledge creation than construction. New scope discovery should outpace velocity because...
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Gene Arch
pianomann81
Aug 12, 2011 3:47 pm
John, I like the idea of the trade-off matrix. I hadn't heard it explained that way. I don't mean to threadjack, but I'm curious what you use for paper ...
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john@...
jvschrag
Aug 12, 2011 3:38 pm
I'm not sure this team is doing anything wrong; new items are being added to the backlog, and the product owner is deeming them less important than things...
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Michael James
michaeljames...
Aug 12, 2011 1:06 pm
Yeah, I'm also not buying that it's virtually impossible to do usability testing during the Sprint, since I've seen people doing it. It requires different...
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Jeff Wall
jmwall67
Aug 12, 2011 1:03 pm
Adrian, That is a good point about the "Definition of Done" At the beginning of our project we wrote down our teams Definition of Done and posted it on the...
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Adrian Howard
ajh65537
Aug 12, 2011 10:05 am
... I think that depends on the kind of usability testing that you're doing, and the issues that your product development process is leaving for you to...
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Adrian Howard
ajh65537
Aug 12, 2011 9:42 am
On 12 Aug 2011, at 03:05, Austin Govella wrote: [snip] ... [snip] This is really good advice - and is often one that is easy for developers to understand since...
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Adrian Howard
ajh65537
Aug 12, 2011 9:39 am
Hi Jared, On 12 Aug 2011, at 02:16, Jared Spool wrote: [snip] ... Not a problem unique to agile. I'm amazed at the number of folk who budget in time for...
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Yaniv Nord
yaniv_nord
Aug 12, 2011 3:12 am
It's virtually impossible to do usability testing in the context of a sprint. By the time your story is pointed, commitment line set, and sprint has started,...
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Jared Spool
jmspool
Aug 12, 2011 2:37 am
... You're absolutely correct. The interesting fact is that the product is in use by thousands of customers today. The users have a love/hate relationship with...
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Jared Spool
jmspool
Aug 12, 2011 2:35 am
... Good question about significance. The usability issues were significant, but not for things the product owner wanted to focus on. Because this was the...
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Marcy Jacobs
acadia0
Aug 12, 2011 2:14 am
How significant are the usability issues? Is a few extra clicks and not the most elegant design but the user can complete tasks or are these issues preventing...
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Prasanna Prabhu
prabhupr70
Aug 12, 2011 2:14 am
Jared, Â They need to understand 1 thing for sure, if there are no users willing to use their product that they are building, then they are wasting their time...
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Jeff Wall
jmwall67
Aug 12, 2011 2:13 am
I think the answer depends on whose perspective you are viewing this from. From the Product Owners perspective, it is the teams job to do exactly what they...
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Austin Govella
agovella
Aug 12, 2011 2:04 am
On Aug 11, 2011, at 8:16 PM, Jared Spool <jspool@...> wrote: I have a client who recently asked me about this problem. I was wondering how you'd handle it?...
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Jared Spool
jmspool
Aug 12, 2011 1:16 am
Hi there, I have a client who recently asked me about this problem. I was wondering how you'd handle it? They are new to UX and to Agile methods, so they are...
