Naresh, your response sounds like every pointy haired boss I've ever
worked for! :)

Chetan, I think it's great you're doing PhD-level research on agile
development, there's not enough of that going on, imo. Looking very
briefly at the survey, I think it could use a thorough proofread for
spelling and grammar, and I think the data you derive will be more
useful if you can design your questions to be more specific (for
example: in the last question on page 2, you need to define what you
mean by small / medium / big project size). Try going through each
question, and each response, and asking yourself "What are all the
different ways of interpreting this question/answer?", and then try to
remove as much of that ambiguity as possible. You might be able to find
someone to help you do this by posting a call for help to this or
another of the agile lists.

best, --Pete

Naresh Jain wrote:
> Lousiest survey I have ever seen.
>
> --
> Naresh Jain
> http://agilefaqs.com <http://agilefaqs.com>
> http://agileIndia.org <http://agileIndia.org>
> http://sdtconf.com <http://sdtconf.com>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Chetan Patel <chetand_mca@yahoo.co.in>
> To: agileindia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 4:24:24 AM
> Subject: [agileindia] (unknown)
>
> iw would like to invite everybody to do the following survey on agile
> software development.
> This survey is a part of my research degree (PhD) at Leeds
> Metropolitan University, UK
>
> the link ia as
>
> http://chetan. seresearch. net/registration .aspx
> <http://chetan.seresearch.net/registration.aspx>
>
> thank you
> Chetankumar Patel
>
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Yeah, I hate sloppy work too; it drives me nuts when someone produces
something that's obviously flawed, and with a little more work could
have made it so much better.

In my opinion, how you respond is determined by your intent.  If your
intent is simply to speak the most harsh truth possible, you might say
"you sir, are a blithering idiot!".  the problem with that is the person
who hears the statement will not *hear* the statement; their ears will
close, as everyone's does when they hear sharp criticism.  You've become
their adversary; they'll think "Oh, that person has an axe to grind
about surveys, he doesn't know what he's talking about, they don't like
me."  If your intent is to radically improve the outcome -- both improve
the quality of the work produced, and also improve the skills /
understanding of the individual so they can do better in the future --
in my experience you get much better results if you make sure the person
feels like you're on their side, that your goal is not to "put them in
their place", but to actually help them succeed.  You're not an
adversary, you're an ally.  This doesn't mean hide the truth from them;
it means to present it very honestly but in a way that they'll really
hear it, and hopefully take it to heart.  I'm not saying you can't get
improvement by berating someone -- but in my experience, you get much
much more improvement if you can find a way to give feedback
constructively and respectfully; and if that person is a colleague or
employee, you'll earn a lot of loyalty in the process.  (If anyone's
interested in reading more, there's a great book called "Conscious
Business" by Fred Kofman that provides a lot of hands-on tips for things
like this.)

--Pete

Naresh Jain wrote:
> Sorry to remind you of your pointy haired boss, but I've No mercy for
> sloppy work.
>
> What would you do if someone asked you
>
> What is your favorite Operating system?
> Choice 1. Windows Vista
> Choice 2. Windows Vista
> Choice 3. Windows Vista
>
> How would you feel?
>
> --
> Naresh Jain
> http://agilefaqs.com <http://agilefaqs.com>
> http://agileIndia.org <http://agileIndia.org>
> http://sdtconf.com <http://sdtconf.com>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Pete Deemer <petedeemer@...>
> To: agileindia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 10:47:56 AM
> Subject: Re: [agileindia] (unknown)
>
> Naresh, your response sounds like every pointy haired boss I've ever
> worked for! :)
>
> Chetan, I think it's great you're doing PhD-level research on agile
> development, there's not enough of that going on, imo. Looking very
> briefly at the survey, I think it could use a thorough proofread for
> spelling and grammar, and I think the data you derive will be more
> useful if you can design your questions to be more specific (for
> example: in the last question on page 2, you need to define what you
> mean by small / medium / big project size). Try going through each
> question, and each response, and asking yourself "What are all the
> different ways of interpreting this question/answer? ", and then try to
> remove as much of that ambiguity as possible. You might be able to find
> someone to help you do this by posting a call for help to this or
> another of the agile lists.
>
> best, --Pete
>
> Naresh Jain wrote:
> > Lousiest survey I have ever seen.
> >
> > --
> > Naresh Jain
> > http://agilefaqs. com <http://agilefaqs.com> <http://agilefaqs. com
> <http://agilefaqs.com>>
> > http://agileIndia. org <http://agileIndia.org> <http://agileIndia.
> org <http://agileIndia.org>>
> > http://sdtconf. com <http://sdtconf.com> <http://sdtconf. com
> <http://sdtconf.com>>
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Chetan Patel <chetand_mca@ yahoo.co. in
> <mailto:chetand_mca%40yahoo.co.in>>
> > To: agileindia@yahoogro ups.com <mailto:agileindia%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 4:24:24 AM
> > Subject: [agileindia] (unknown)
> >
> > iw would like to invite everybody to do the following survey on agile
> > software development.
> > This survey is a part of my research degree (PhD) at Leeds
> > Metropolitan University, UK
> >
> > the link ia as
> >
> > http://chetan. seresearch. net/registration .aspx
> > <http://chetan. seresearch. net/registration .aspx
> <http://chetan.seresearch.net/registration.aspx>>
> >
> > thank you
> > Chetankumar Patel
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Naresh, your response sounds like every pointy haired boss I've ever
worked for!  :)

Chetan, I think it's great you're doing PhD-level research on agile
development, there's not enough of that going on, imo.  Looking very
briefly at the survey, I think it could use a thorough proofread for
spelling and grammar, and I think the data you derive will be more
useful if you can design your questions to be more specific (for
example: in the last question on page 2, you need to define what you
mean by small / medium / big project size).  Try going through each
question, and each response, and asking yourself "What are all the
different ways of interpreting this question/answer?", and then try to
remove as much of that ambiguity as possible.  You might be able to find
someone to help you do this by posting a call for help to this or
another of the agile lists.

best, --Pete


Naresh Jain wrote:
> Lousiest survey I have ever seen.
>
> --
> Naresh Jain
> http://agilefaqs.com <http://agilefaqs.com>
> http://agileIndia.org <http://agileIndia.org>
> http://sdtconf.com <http://sdtconf.com>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Chetan Patel <chetand_mca@...>
> To: agileindia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 4:24:24 AM
> Subject: [agileindia] (unknown)
>
> iw would like to invite everybody to do the following survey on agile
> software development.
> This survey is a part of my research degree (PhD) at Leeds
> Metropolitan University, UK
>
> the link ia as
>
> http://chetan. seresearch. net/registration .aspx
> <http://chetan.seresearch.net/registration.aspx>
>
> thank you
> Chetankumar Patel
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Hi Anurag,

I would like to present demo of "Continuous Integration Servers" under
'demo of tools' category.

Thanks & Regards,

Amit Jain


On Wed, 2007-12-12 at 10:49 +0000, Anurag Shrivastava wrote:
> Hi All,
>
>
>
> I had a good discussion with Dr Yadav of AIT yesterday. It appears
> that we can have our conference on 1st March 2008 or 7th March 2008
> and not earlier
>
>
>
> We will finalize upon one of these dates once AIT has decided on a
> suitable date. AIT has a nice campus on the foothills of Aravali in
> Gurgaon. Next week they are organizing an international conference on
> nano technology. We can use the ‘freshly painted’ conference facility
> at AIT for Agile Conference too.
>
>
>
> The Agile Conference will be a day long on a Saturday. Here is my
> skeleton proposal for the program.
>
>
>
> 9:30 – 10:00
>
>
>         Opening
>
>
>
>
>
>     Plenary Session
>
>
> 10:00 to 10:20
>
>
> Keynote Speech
>
>
> 10:30 to 11:30
>
>
> Presentation -1  (P1)
>
>
> 11:40 to 12:40
>
>
> Presentation -2  (P2)
>
>
> 12:40  to 1:50
>
>
> Lunch
>
>
>
>
>
>    Parallel Sessions
>
>
>
>
>
> Technical Track
>
>
> Management Track
>
>
> 2:00 to 2:50
>
>
> T1
>
>
> M1
>
>
> 3:00 to 3:50
>
>
> T2
>
>
> M2
>
>
> 3:50 to 4:10
>
>
> Break
>
>
> 4:10 to 5:00
>
>
> T3
>
>
> M3
>
>
> 5:10 to 6:00
>
>
> Panel Discussion
>
>
> 6:00 to 6:30
>
>
> Closing
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Technical track will be for those who are interested in the tools and
> techniques while the management track will be for those who are
> interested in the process and management.
>
>
>
> Many people have said that they want to contribute. I would like to
> write down here what we are looking for so that you can choose and
> pick:
>
>
>
>       * Suggest a suitable theme or catch phrase for Agile Conference
>       * Filling up the presentation slots. If there is a need we can
>         add an extra track. Call for speaker will follow.
>       * Suggestions and contact for a keynote speaker
>       * Publicity of this conference in industry and academia
>       * Help in registration of delegates
>       * Publicity Material and Logistics
>       * Sponsorships ( Any Ideas )
>       * Go-No Go Criteria
>       * Suggest what you would like to hear in this conference for
>         example:
>               * Experience Report
>               * Demo of tools
>               * XP Games
>               * Distributed Agile
>               * Agile and CMM
>
>
>
> Kindly feel free to add more to this list since I would like to
> improve the agenda and the quality of conference with your support.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Anurag Shrivastava
>
>
>
> Visit Xebia on web at  www.xebia.com &blog.xebia.com
>
> NAUG Website: http://naug. wikidot.com | New presentation ideas are
> always welcome.
>
> Agile India Yahoo Group: http://tech. groups.yahoo. com/group/
> agileindia/ messages
>
>
>
>
>
>

Actually, the Scrum Alliance is doing an event in Hyderabad on Saturday,
January 12 -- free and everyone's welcome, whatever your Agile interests
-- here's the announcement that just went out:

HYDERABAD, INDIA -- Saturday, January 12 -- 10am-6pm
Scrum 1-Day Unconference. A day of discussion, arguments, laughter,
questions and suggestions from fellow Scrum users, and a chance to
share your horror stories and revel in your Scrum successes! If
you're interested in attending, please email
hyderbadevent@... <mailto:hyderbad_event%40goodagile.com>.
(advance sign-up required
because we'd like to keep it to 100 people, like the Scrum Gatherings)

best, --Pete



Naresh Jain wrote:
> We've not had a single event in Hyd so far. I would be interested to
> plan something there is we can find a person on ground who want to
> help me.
>
> First thing would be to come up with some tentative dates and then to
> find a venue. If these 2 things are done, I believe everything else is
> fall in place.
>
> --
> Naresh Jain
> http://agilefaqs.com <http://agilefaqs.com>
> http://agileIndia.org <http://agileIndia.org>
> http://sdtconf.com <http://sdtconf.com>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Akkiraju Bhattiprolu <akkirajub@...>
> To: agileindia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, December 8, 2007 3:11:05 PM
> Subject: [agileindia] Agile enthusiasts/practitionars in Hyderabad??
>
> Hi All,
>
> I want to get a feel for how much of Agile interest is prevailing in
> Hyderabad.  Either post here or send me a personal mail if you are one
> of those who are based out of Hyderabad and interested.  If we have
> enough  numbers, probably we can plan for formal/informal seminars,
> sessions and/or conferences.
>
> Lets get started.
>
> Thanks
> -Akkiraju
>
>
>
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Priyanshu Goyal of Xebia is an active NAUG member. He has published an
article on Agile Alliance.

Priyanshu's article titled "With Agile practices a distributed team is
so far yet so close" has been published on Agile Alliance.

Here is the link:
http://www.agilealliance.org/show/1924

Regards,
Anurag Shrivastava

-----Original Message-----
From: Vikas Hazrati
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 12:33 PM
To: Iedereen
Subject: Priyanshu's article on Agile Alliance

Priyanshu's article titled "With Agile practices a distributed team is
so far yet so close" has been published on Agile Alliance.

Here is the link
http://www.agilealliance.org/show/1924

Kudos! Cool Job!

Though he posted it way back in July, he decided to check the status
this weekend :D, pretty agile ;)

Regards | Vikas

--- In agileindia@yahoogroups.com, "Siddharta Govindaraj"
<siddharta@...> wrote:
>
> Azagappan has an excellent overview of the Chennai Agile User Group
> meetup on Saturday -
>
> http://azagappan.wordpress.com/2007/11/18/chennai-agile-user-group-
november-meetup/
>
> --
> Siddharta Govindaraj
>

Hi Sid:
I missed 1st Dec meet-up. I am available from Jan onwards. Do let me
know about the next Agile chennai meeting.

-Subhashini

Please note that since we're limiting the size of the event to 40
people, advance sign-up is required -- please email invite@...
if you'd like to attend.  thx!

Naresh Jain wrote:
> Please note that the venue for this event is finalized.  It's going to
> be at Regaalis Hotel Bangalore [http://www.regaalis.net/bangalore.htm]
> <http://www.regaalis.net/bangalore.htm>
>
> Also note that the event is postponed to 6:30 PM. So now the event
> starts at 6:30 PM and ends at 9:00 PM.
>
> We have a few seats left, so please sign up as soon as possible.
>
> More details: http://agileindia.org/managerintrotoagile
> <http://agileindia.org/managerintrotoagile>
> --
> Naresh Jain
> http://agilefaqs.com <http://agilefaqs.com>
> http://agileIndia.org <http://agileIndia.org>
> http://sdtconf.com <http://sdtconf.com>
>
>
> ----- Forwarded Message ----
> From: Naresh Jain <nashjain@...>
> To: agileIndia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 10:39:19 PM
> Subject: [agileindia] A Manager's Introduction to Agile Development on
> Dec 19th
>
> Often we hear "I'd love to start using Agile practices at work, but I
> can't convince my manager / director / VP to support it".
>
> We'd like to help!
>
> ASCI is sponsoring an evening event in Bangalore called "A Manager's
> Introduction to Agile Development" .
> This event would be led by Pete Deemer
> <http://www.goodagile.com/trainer_background.html> and Naresh Jain
> <http://agilefaqs.com/nareshjain.html>.
>
> *Details of the event:
>
> *
> Date  :  Wednesday, December 19th 2007
>
> Time  :  5:00 PM to 7:30 PM
>
> Location  :  We are searching for a venue in the central part of
> Bangalore.
>
> Cost  :  Free
>
> # of Participants  :  30-40 people max [We would like to keep the
> event small to facilitate better discussion]
>
> Target Audience  :  Managers who might not know what Agile practices
> are, or might have a lot of anxiety about trying them.
>
> *Agenda:*
>
> 5:00 - 5:15 PM  :  Welcome and Introductions
>
> 5:15 - 6:00 PM  :  Presentation and Discussion by Pete
>
> 6:00 - 6:45 PM  :  Agile Myth Busters activity by Naresh
>
> 6:45 - 7:30 PM  :  Q & A
>
>
> We're scheduling it in the evening, to make it easier for the managers
> to fit it into their schedule (or at least give them one fewer excuse
> why they can't make it!).
>
> If you know someone you'd like to nominate, please talk to them and if
> they agree to attend this event, please send their name and email ID
> to invite AT goodagile DOT com <mailto:invite@...> with the
> subject line "ASCI Event Bangalore".
>
> For more details check out: http://agileindia. org/managerintro
> toagile <http://agileindia.org/managerintrotoagile>
>
> --
> Naresh Jain
> http://agilefaqs. com <http://agilefaqs.com>
> http://agileIndia. org <http://agileIndia.org>
> http://sdtconf. com <http://sdtconf.com>
>
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Hi, we will definitely add your friend to the list.  If anyone else has
had trouble with email bounces, feel free to email me directly:
petedeemer@....  --pete



an.narasimhan wrote:
>
> One of my friends is a consultant and trying to get into Scrum as many
> of his clients are moving into it. I wanted to nominate his name for
> this interesting program as he was very keen to attend but the
> nominations mails bounced back several times. Is these any other way
> to nominate ?
>
> His name is vasu and email id is: vasu@...
>
> Rgds-AN
>
> Naresh Jain wrote:
>
>> Often we hear "I'd love to start using Agile practices at work, but I
>> can't convince my manager / director / VP to support it".
>>
>> We'd like to help!
>>
>> ASCI is sponsoring an evening event in Bangalore called "A Manager's
>> Introduction to Agile Development".
>> This event would be led by Pete Deemer
>> <http://www.goodagile.com/trainer_background.html> and Naresh Jain
>> <http://agilefaqs.com/nareshjain.html>.
>>
>> *Details of the event:
>>
>> *
>> Date  :  Wednesday, December 19th 2007
>>
>> Time  :  5:00 PM to 7:30 PM
>>
>> Location  :  We are searching for a venue in the central part of
>> Bangalore.
>>
>> Cost  :  Free
>>
>> # of Participants  :  30-40 people max [We would like to keep the
>> event small to facilitate better discussion]
>>
>> Target Audience  :  Managers who might not know what Agile practices
>> are, or might have a lot of anxiety about trying them.
>>
>> *Agenda:*
>>
>> 5:00 - 5:15 PM  :  Welcome and Introductions
>>
>> 5:15 - 6:00 PM  :  Presentation and Discussion by Pete
>>
>> 6:00 - 6:45 PM  :  Agile Myth Busters activity by Naresh
>>
>> 6:45 - 7:30 PM  :  Q & A
>>
>>
>> We're scheduling it in the evening, to make it easier for the
>> managers to fit it into their schedule (or at least give them one
>> fewer excuse why they can't make it!).
>>
>> If you know someone you'd like to nominate, please talk to them and
>> if they agree to attend this event, please send their name and email
>> ID to invite AT goodagile DOT com <mailto:invite@...> with
>> the subject line "ASCI Event Bangalore".
>>
>> For more details check out: http://agileindia.org/managerintrotoagile
>> <http://agileindia.org/managerintrotoagile>
>>
>> --
>> Naresh Jain
>> http://agilefaqs.com <http://agilefaqs.com>
>> http://agileIndia.org <http://agileIndia.org>
>> http://sdtconf.com <http://sdtconf.com>
>>
>>
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