The slides and paper that I gave at the Miami TOC ICO conference this past October are now available on my website. ...
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David J Anderson
netherby_uk
Jan 7, 2005 5:20 pm
The following interview appeared as an email from SD Magazine two days ago. It will appear in the print and online versions of the magazine soon. SD PEOPLE &...
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greeni_63
Jan 7, 2005 11:19 pm
Congratulations and well done! As a subscriber to SD Magazine, as soon as I got their message yesterday I forwarded it on to my colleagues. It would be an...
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David J Anderson
netherby_uk
Jan 8, 2005 12:01 am
Or one word... SLOWLY ;-) ... soon ... colleagues. ... Microsoft's ... Maybe...
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SirGilligan
Jan 12, 2005 4:23 pm
For years we used Waterfall methodologies and built amazing systems. These methodologies should be tools to use when needed. Are there still reasons to use...
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Logan, Patrick D
patrickdlogan
Jan 12, 2005 6:01 pm
... I think agility is a goal. Agile practices are ways of getting to that goal. If the organization has other goals then certainly there may be practices...
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Glen B. Alleman
gballeman2000
Jan 12, 2005 6:46 pm
Patrick, As well, agile is in the eye of the beholder. Agile business systems development is different from agile nuclear weapons plant clean up, is different...
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Douglas and Lynn Brown
padgett-brown
Jan 13, 2005 2:36 am
Well, there are actually many times when waterfall or BDUF is the most appropriate. Some waterfall approaches are really spiral. Aircraft, for instance, are...
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David J Anderson
netherby_uk
Jan 13, 2005 5:41 pm
BDUF makes sense to me in large scale physical projects like suspension bridges like the Golden Gate and tunnels like the Channel Tunnel between France and the...
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SirGilligan
Jan 13, 2005 5:43 pm
... Thanks for your comments. I have years of experience in the phasic approaches and I am acquiring experience in XP and Agile. I see them as tools to be used...
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Logan, Patrick D
patrickdlogan
Jan 13, 2005 6:28 pm
... from ... Definitely. There is no simple "agile" or "non-agile" decision. Rather I was trying to emphasize that an organization pay attention to and ...
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Glen B Alleman
gballeman2000
Jan 14, 2005 4:43 am
David in fact both those project had major changes mid-course. They made the changes and completed the projects more or less on time and on budget relative to...
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David J Anderson
netherby_uk
Jan 14, 2005 4:56 pm
The Channel Tunnel on budget? You must jest? Surely? If I remember correctly it came in 8 Billion GBP over-budget. What was the major change mid-course? ... ...
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Matthew Gelbwaks
mgelbwaks
Jan 14, 2005 5:14 pm
OK - to support Dave, here is another example - one close to my geographic heart. The Big Dig in Boston MA. Nearly double the original price, due much to ...
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Johanna Rothman
johannarothman
Jan 14, 2005 5:34 pm
... The bigger the project, the more inherent risk. If you have such risk, why assume that BDUF is going to work? Why not assume you'd have to iterate on the...
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David J Anderson
netherby_uk
Jan 14, 2005 5:51 pm
I think the fact that these things run over-budget is indicative of how hard it is to control these kind of projects - they suffer political uncertainty. We...
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David J Anderson
netherby_uk
Jan 14, 2005 5:55 pm
Johanna, Everything you've said here makes sense. Can you explain to us [just for fun] as a group how you would have tackled the Big Dig as a project? ... ...
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Johanna Rothman
johannarothman
Jan 14, 2005 6:44 pm
... I'll try :-) I would have used more of an staged delivery lifecycle (staged delivery of several projects). The Big Dig sort-of used an evolutionary...
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Hugo Sampaio
hugsampaio
Jan 14, 2005 7:46 pm
... What's a normal cost overrun? Is there such thing as "normal" overruns... Common may be yes, but normal? - Hugo...
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Johanna Rothman
johannarothman
Jan 14, 2005 7:56 pm
... On a project that big when you know things will go wrong and the estimate is just a guess, I mean the common cost overruns, not the ...
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Glen B. Alleman
gballeman2000
Jan 14, 2005 8:45 pm
david Quoting the ooverage needs a baseline. The plan was $12B to $14B the actual was $18B on a "never done before, discovery design." Here's some data ...
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David J Anderson
netherby_uk
Jan 14, 2005 9:18 pm
Deming certainly preferred "common" when trying to separate out normal from abnormal. His choices were "common" and "special". I often find myself explaining...
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Brian O'Byrne
bobyrne_stat...
Jan 15, 2005 12:24 pm
I'd like to suggest a measure that might indicate when BDUF is appropriate and when a more iterative or agile approach can work. Very simply it is the relative...
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Ron Jeffries
ronaldejeffries
Jan 15, 2005 9:25 pm
... Yes, this is an interesting suggestion, and the other thoughts in the note are worth reviewing. I snip them here only to save space. What I'll say here, I...
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Douglas and Lynn Brown
padgett-brown
Jan 16, 2005 12:39 am
The problem that you are discussing has really nothing to do with the design methodology (BDUF vs agile), although I am not sure how you do agile design on an ...
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greeni_63
Jan 17, 2005 6:34 am
... I would guess they took a traditional BDUF approach because it has the main hallmarks: we don't know how much more it will cost and it's not ready yet. I...
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Ron Jeffries
ronaldejeffries
Jan 17, 2005 11:36 am
... Actually, they did. The VP/IT of a large regulated company recently lost his job for failing to meet a required deadline which, observers believe, could...
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Ross, Darrell
darrell_l_ross
Jan 17, 2005 2:03 pm
A point of clarification........the topic of "common vs. special causes of variation" has its roots in Statistical Process Control. Deming was a fanatic about...
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greeni_63
Jan 17, 2005 4:55 pm
... In this case, it's probably the reader who is to blame. I'd assumed that the opposite of big design up front was small design up front. But you seem to be...
