i would like to know what most people think when they hear "UML 2" Without doing any official research of the spec deltas... what do people think is different...
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(responding to Jon) ... My first reaction is that we have a geek on our hands who has the wrong focus. In the majority of cases, that also seems to be my...
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(responding to "furashgf") ... "Package" and "Component" notations allow us to partition when we need to. "Boundary" notations allow us to define or describe...
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... Since I first asked the question - I take offense. Don't make the wrong assumptions just because I asked a question. I'm interested in the discussion. I...
(responding to Steven Shaw) ... No offence intended; and I probably deserve a rap on the knuckles. Didn't read Jon's message far enough to cover the original...
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Well, the changes in UML 2 included a bunch of things that make it better, especially for modeling architecture (though it still lacks anything that looks like...
... UML 2 has done a less crappy job of business process modeling than UML 1.x did. ;-) I've played around with BPEL a bit but the notation just doesn't do it...
Responding to ... <snip> ... Sorry for a tool vendor perspective ;-), but why not then make languages (and have tool support) that fit to your modeling needs ...
(responding to Scott E. Preece) ... Just checked back to see what our UML guru was doing prior to UML 2.0 (which we don't have yet) and he's getting a lot of...
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... Exactly. Everybody uses free-form diagrams like this, architecture books always seem to include them, but the modeling book authors rarely seem to discuss...
An idea that I've been mulling for quite some time, and acting on in a small manner, is the open sourcing of the development of the UML. If we can develop...
i posit that making languages is nor for the masses... Speaking of M0, M1, M2, M3 for most people makes their heads explode (the M2 & M3 parts). Do you find...
i'm game! we can always start over... that is, jettison the UML and create the AML first things i would do is re-state the purpose of developing a modeling...
This sounds great. Actually the UML doesn't do justice on the database side. The Class Model is really not adequate. If you examine the main players that have...
... Actually, as I argue at http://www.agiledata.org/essays/umlDataModelingProfile.html I think it is possible to extend class diagrams to do this. Not that...
i liked your question... for tool vendors, it is an oft-asked question and I always ask "what part of UML 2 do you want?" for tool vendors, UML 2 was to help...
UML2 - in it's Class Diagram also extended it with the notion or "Bags" and "Sequences", which enforced the notion that there can only be one link between a...
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... explode (the M2 & M3 parts). ... Like the discussion here on the topic of UML standard shows there is need at least to "tweak" current languages. I think...
(responding to Pete, Scott) ... Is it time yet to start listing desirable properties? Let's start with the obvious: - It must make it easy to understand and...
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The only real reason to have a published standard is so that when users question why you have modelled in a certain way you can say, "Because it's just...
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Our AgileModelling UserGroup has suddenly been stirred. We would love to participate, this would be great. The thought process is some thing that would enrich...
... There is definitely the need to tweak current languages, and even to develop new ones as the case may be. However, Jon is right, this isn't for the vast...
... This is a perfect example of why the UML needs to be extended. Over the years many people have talked about UI modeling in the UML (I was first, way back...
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