If I am going to a client and they want to design a system that lets their website members join a mailing list, how does this look for process: I draw a big...
ummmm. first off, what role are you playing here? i know you are trying for a "generic" process, but those work only when tailored. So here is how i would...
Hector, At what point does the client get so lost that they tune out or simply start accepting abstract representations that they do not understand the meaning...
I was just asking a theorherical question. The purpose of the question was to establish if those diagrams would in fact be appropriate at that time. ...
re: "...if those diagrams would in fact be appropriate at that time." in practice, the answer is "No" for me. ... What does this buy any client? ... Use Case I...
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(responding to Hector (or brian?)) ... Also, prioritise the problems you have with what you know and applying it to your situation, we'll try and help with...
... can ... Scott, I don't know much about Linux, but I've worked with teams where changes to a new compiler or new version of a language generally only ...
On 29 Sep 2006, at 18:35, stratasoftware wrote: [snip] ... [snip] I'm sorry - but from this I can't understand what the problem you're trying to prevent is....
In this particular case, we're using Linux inside our products and we extend and modify it in ways that we have to merge with the changes that the mainstream...
Yep. I got caught and they fired me. They said, "What the heck are all these diagrams? We want to talk to a person, not a drawing." Thanks a lot for trying to...
George ... I think that we are privileged on this list that you have taken the trouble to relate your sad story. We can all learn from it. Thanks. Rgds Ashley ...
... Hash: SHA1 Ashley, Just do not work with models if you are not properly trained. Thats all I have to say. Learn from my mistakes. I am going to sleep on...
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... I build a process model using statecharts. That shows me the overall flow of the business process and allows me to discuss with the customer what parts...
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... I use diagrams that fit on one sheet of paper (A4 or letter). I show them to customers so if they don't communicate clearly and allow us to discuss the...
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Hello Hubert, thank you for your reply. The topic related to my question regarding what kinds of documentation identified what's missing. The hypothesis...
Hello Hubert, thank you for writing. On Wednesday, October 4, 2006, ... I'd like to have two small and concise diagrams. I'm not so concerned about precise,...
Just thought I'd jump into the conversation. - Scott ... From: "Ron Jeffries" <ronjeffries@...> To: <agilemodeling@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday,...
... Precision has a nasty habit of flushing out relevant diabolical details and that's why I want it. Precision doesn't refer to abundance of detail, it means...
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... The worst thing that can happen when you put a diagram in front of a user is that they say "OK, whatever, where do I sign?". This means that it has failed...
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I am sure your process works for you in your context, but I do not believe it would be agile in many other contexts. See detailed quibbles imbedded below. ...
... [Howard C. Berkowitz] One of my mentors, back when conventional flowcharting was the latest in software engineering, had a rule I found to be quite useful....