You might find my layering article at http://www.ambysoft.com/essays/classTypeArchitecture.html to be of interest. It goes into a bit more detail, so it might...
Dan, someone just shared the link to http://www.dama-nj.org/presentations/FragileData%20DanPaolini.pdf with me. Yikes. It's really unfortunate that you ...
Scott, I have been lurking on the Agile Modelling list for a long time now, and haven't said much for a long time - but the data people who know me will also...
Dagna Gaythorpe
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May 4, 2007 3:31 pm
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... <snip> ... I also think that Dan managed to pretty much misrepresent a lot of what AM and AD are all about, and particularly to misrepresent my position....
... Scott, To some extent I share your strong feelings at the style of Dan's presentation, but he has some valid points and I don't think the manner of your...
agile schmagile... The first slug of slides (which i have not gotten past yet) pointing out realities of some development efforts being lousy has nothing to do...
... Your message is a response to my message, yet instead of responding to anything I said, you responded only to what Dan said. Was that just an oversight?...
... You'll have to excuse me if I get upset when people libel me. ... I do, considering his presentation quotes me and uses my copyrighted material very, very...
... You read it very differently that I did. When he says "Scott says.... the implication is....", and I read it as "Scott says.... and so people do....". He's...
Just thought I'd start a new thread seeing as the topics were different. Comments below. - Scott ... Heath <clifford.heath@...> wrote: <snip> ... modeling...
... This may add absolutely no value, but I do just have to ask a simple question of people whose opinions I've come to respect: Why do those opposed to Agile...
Clifford Heath wrote: [snip] ... Technical debt is only created when the people involved allow it to be created. I have worked on Agile teams that routinely...
... <snip> ... I think that the Agile movement really upsets the traditional apple cart. Part of our message is that you need to be able to deliver working...
... Perhaps. Then again, you might want to read the archives of the dm-discuss@yahoogroups.com list. That community has a history of misrepresenting agile, ...
Clifford ... Are your executable models described in ORM? If so, I don't undersastand how the model can be "completely dynamic" as ORM models are (at least in...
re: " Absolutely - regardless of your development process, you need to think things through at the start. The difference is that Agile methods encourage you to...
The problem with thinking too much up front is not just the risk of analysis paralysis. The beginning of a project is the point in time when we have the least ...
re: " Firstly then, Agile does have a tendency to creating a greater technical debt in regard to data models, by encouraging people to expect that they can...
Nice! Poignant. Elegant. So Agile is unethical, eh? That was what we were going for in 2001. Initially, we had gotten together in virtual ways (wiki) and were ...
... It seems to me that when someone says something like "it is difficult to reduce the cost of refactoring below BDUF", they really mean "I don't know how to...
it's all in the details of each project. if a project truly started off with 10% of knowledge and built to 100% over time, then that's far from anything i've...
re: Slide 49 "Don't Bet" "Better still, don't bet! If you have planned, architected and designed properly, you are much less likely to have to throw any work...
Scott, well, my friend, it simply boils down to this: folks can say whatever they want. the audience can choose to listen, to seek to understand, or to simply...
... <snip> ... Because an organization wants to employ professional modelers whose only skill is to model? Because an organization hasn't gotten past the ...
... telling us that it can't be done, while all around them, people are doing it. It's sort of like reading about mad passionate love versus doing it ;-0 jon ...
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