Hi. I'm new to the group and pretty new to agile planning, so apologies if this sounds like a silly question.. I'm setting up an initial meeting for gathering...
Hi Avi, I strongly recommend that you leave Excel out of the meeting. Use index cards to write the stories on, one story per card. This way the can be...
Hi Ron. ... I can understand why whiteboards or cards, but why is the format not important? As I understand, the format should help focus the story and keep it...
Thanks Tobias! So far I've take your advice about involving the whole team (or at least more of it), and asked our QA tester to join in too, hoping that this...
I would suggest you read Mike Cohn's book if you have not already and visit his website 'mountaingoatsoftware.com' - he has a lot of useful information on...
... A, not when you are trying to figure out what the stories are, which I took to be the original question. B, any other time the format is training wheels....
Hi Lori. ... I'm in mid-reading of both his books ("Agile estimating and planning" and "User STories Applied"). They are great and my only problem is I havn't...
Thanks Ron. I think I'm starting to understand what you mean - stick to the CCC model for stories, and use the "As a___ I Want___ So that___" selectively on...
... I personally hope never to write "As a ... I want ... so that ..." on a card. I just don't see the point of it. ... I think that trying to go from idea to...
I used to think, like Ron, that the format in which the story text is written was completely irrelevant. Like him I would write a story like: "Allow the user...
Hi Avi, I agree with Mike here. I believe the format for the story (the who/what/why) is extremely useful for focusing PO and developers on the essentials. ...
Hello, Mike. Again, I think that //thinking// about the three dimensions of As a ... I want ... so that ... is very important. Since I think written...
When the phrase is stated as suggested by the OP, it is a "capability" rather than a "requirement." It has been shown that speaking in capabilities clarifies...
Mike All that you mention is why I find the format so valuable, bit let me add these comments. First the format is a foundational link in large projects, as it...
Glen Good to 'see' you again. Can we assume that if the degree of project triviality can, at one level, be measured by the willingness of someone to pay for it...
Hi Ron-- I can agree that many would-be agile teams get in trouble because of documentation. However, I'd rather try to teach the responsible use of documents...
... I have no problem at all with a written list. I prefer to have the list on the team's whiteboard, or if they use a "kanban" style board with cards, on the...
Mike, In the IT business value is always measured in dollars. Monetizing action is part of the business and IT governance . Otherwise why are you spending...
Hello, Glen. On Wednesday, August 6, 2008, at 10:12:05 AM, you ... I don't understand the question. Ron Jeffries www.XProgramming.com Education is the ability...
Hello, Glen. On Wednesday, August 6, 2008, at 11:06:19 AM, you ... I have dealt with a lot of IT organizations over many years, and this is simply not the...
Hello, Glen. On Thursday, August 7, 2008, at 8:34:22 AM, you ... Ask the Product Owner, if you care. Ron Jeffries www.XProgramming.com We know less about the...
Hello, Glen. On Thursday, August 7, 2008, at 9:00:17 AM, you ... Different question. You started with the claim that IT decisions are //always// about money....
Hello, Glen. On Thursday, August 7, 2008, at 1:58:30 PM, you ... I'm not an agile planner. I would measure the performance of any project by the rate in time ...