I'm writing an article for H+ magazine about this subject. My prediction is that the upload will experience something, but in a fundamentally different kind of way. So I think the color experience, for instance, won't quite be the same. My idea is that many physical changes, can radically change this experience with respect to the upload's human form. Basically, I continue my AIT based theory of qualia, and I reach the conclusion that, some information, and thus some qualia, will be shared by the human brain and its upload simulation, but the simulation will naturally have the algorithmic information from: the simulation program itself, the physical make-up of the processing elements, wires and communication, i.e. the hardware that the program runs on. If for instance our brains' chemical reactions are part of that, then, by not simulating those chemical reactions, we might be losing some resolution and the fundamental quality of the media. We might find that the digital experience is much more digital sounding and harsh, so maybe even the difference of analog vs. digital computation is felt, and then there are material-bound changes. I think that an optical computer and a digital computer will give rise to different kinds of experience. Maybe we'll prefer the light form better :)
Hello everyone, I'm writing an article for H+ magazine about this subject. My prediction is that the upload will experience something, but in a fundamentally...
Hi Eray I have one interesting example. Let we have powerful enough self-aware AGI which uses good hardware RNG with custom distribution (for Monte-Carlo ...
Yeah but how do you know RNG's are used? :) I suppose you mean quantum-level RNG's, like perhaps macro bio-molecules, for induction? ... -- Eray Ozkural, PhD...
... Okay, that's a good point :) No it won't be you, it will be your digital descendant. You don't care about him? :) Cheers, -- Eray Ozkural, PhD candidate....
... That’s the most certain thing of it all. An upload of me will never be me, even if this upload happens to be done in a brainless clone of my own body....
Eray, The argument relies on "rounding error" (so to speak), right? No difference would be felt if the simulation were (unrealistically) perfect? Why would the...
Yes, that's the right direction to investigate. I have an argument in that direction, as well. An observation is that only the computationally efficacious...
Eray, I think you’ve got that right. In fact, I’m even more radical: I think most of what we describe as subjective human experiences is highly dependend...
Hello there, Yes, I've been thinking about that, too. I'm also considering that chemical reactions may play an important role in implementing emotions (is that...
Well, I can tell you that we’re aligned in our take at this issue. No doubt the simulation will have its own set of subjective experiences (ones that we ...
Hi Eray Only tiny fractions of emotions are backed with chemistry directly. These are mostly basic (basal) behavioral and cognitive emotions. Higher level ...
2011/4/11 Victor Smirnov <aist11@...> ... The question is whether it is necessary for certain chemical interactions to take place for pain to feel like...
... This is by far the most complex and (so far) unsolved question. What is pain? What is qualia? Philosophers have debated this exaustively. I’m skeptical...
... Whether a feeling is experienced in a particular way may be less influential than whether it is experienced in any way, in forming some kind of ...
I mean, scientifically, we should be able to ask under which physical/chemical conditions does a particular mental quality like being in pain, is formed. We...
And one more thing that I forgot: the question ultimately depends on the correct theory of human-like and otherwise subjective experience. If the relativistic...
Let me say some words about this question, that I see as highly complex. Yes, as you say, it should be possible in principle to simulate the physicochemical...
Oh well, but consider this. You are in a cylon body (the chrome type :). And you are an upload. Functionally, the internal emotions of the brain have been...
... I can honestly tell you that I don't know. Of course, I’m assuming that this cylon has a body with biological equivalents of our human organs, and that...
No, of course it's those shiny robotic bodies :) Who wants a human body when you have CHROME :))))) -- Eray Ozkural, PhD candidate. Comp. Sci. Dept., Bilkent...