... surely, but no all we get is your daily salad of words. ... I am sorry that you can't always understand what I am talking about, but I honestly think that...
... [snip] ... OK: "Understanding" is a word from everyday, commonsense psychology, and it has no single, definite meaning: we use it for many different kinds...
... Hello, OK. As in "understanding nature". Do we really mean "declarative understanding" to be anything other than a "correct" decomposition of the world...
... psychology, ... different ... nowhere ... you ... view, ... I am only wasting my time because I am bothering to respond to specious arguments like the one...
About wasting Minsky's and Eray's time: I resent the put downs like "bogus example" and "you are wasting...our time." However, I intend to continue posting...
... psychology, ... different ... I think it is not possible to have a word or concept, even in mathematics and logic, which has a definite meaning. If you try...
TARIK Ă–ZKANLI
tozkanli2023@...
Mar 2, 2007 2:36 pm
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... You are entirely correct, except where you're entirely wrong. Actually, I probably haven't specifically said "you're wrong" about something, rather...
... I appreciate your measured question. What I said was this: "Trying to be candid and honest with you, knowledge is not necessarily the same thing as...
... Thanks! For the record, I did not claim that understanding is identical to building a predictive model. In fact, the word is loaded with ambiguity. In one...
... the ... that ... many ... are ... There ... especially ... Cosmides ... expect ... with ... principle ... interconnects ... indicate ... those ... course. ...
I have been spending all week trying to teach a simulated German how to round out her/his sounds... any suggestions? Turing Androids are stubborn objects, at...
... One might say that any assertion is a kind of prediction. But for an AI model in which true learning is to take place, the programmer has to be prepared...
... that my comment is wrong, and then he uses the very point I had just made in the comment to correct me! Of course understanding has many meanings and many...
... <tozkanli2023@...> wrote: I think it is not possible to have a word or concept, even in mathematics and logic, which has a definite meaning. If you try...
Honesty was an interesting example for Jim to bring up. I would argue that the brain automatically tests the great bulk of incoming information for its truth -...
For Minsky and Mike Tinter: Try to define 'honestly' without using words. An open-ended tree with visual/sensory examples: 1. Genuine smile/ false smile 2....
... Statistics of words, that is tables of sentences, etc. is not going to reveal the meaning. However, statistics of *use* will. So the table should look...
Article in March 2007 issue of Scientific American, "Illusory Color and the Brain". Interesting "interactive" effects [ie, illusions] - modified Ehrenstein...
http://www.eetimes.com/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=197006955 =================== Tasks will include autonomously merging into moving traffic, reading traffic...
Developing complex structures ... Dr. Minsky is concerned with showing how interaction of simple processes in the brain can lead to things that look mysterious...
... But careful study of the different facial muscles used has enabled us to put it into words. ... Defining "understanding" using words like "knowing the...
Anyone here into intelligent tutoring systems? Just discovered these. They seem to be a very important application of AI, that will keep growing in importance....
MT:Note that the brain can and does detect genuine/ false ... jgkjcasey@... :But careful study of the different facial muscles used has enabled us to...
... used ... insincerity, sure. Those words would be utterly useless without photos - and are, in fact, based on photos, cf Ekman. (Badly acted photos!) ... ...
... predictions, but we can also generate predictions without insight. This gives some indication that prediction is not adequate in itself to produce...
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