... Come on Mike, you keep getting stuck with this because you keep thinking of a machine that has been pre-programmed to simply do X when it perceives Y. ...
On 31 March 2007 05:47 PM, Eray Ozkural wrote in ai-philosophy: EO>> As you know there is some new work in computability, so we have classes of numbers from...
... People often like to think that these "Bell experiments" prove that world is not deterministic, but you actually have to interpret them with pretty...
... same as ... from an ... beyond ... that ... in ... Ankara Your comment, "talk about nonsense," is not an intelligent remark. It does not address the issue,...
... "Local" is the keyword here. Bell experiments only disprove local hidden variables. The reason non-local hidden variables are problematic is basically ...
Anssi, I'm quite confused about your direction. Are you saying a deterministic program can be truly adaptive? (It can change its behaviour in response to...
Ok. Let's play. What is this law that does not have the "absolute nature that is often implied in these discussions"? -- Eray Ozkural, PhD candidate. Comp....
... What if *all* the "rules" you are referring to were created by the system itself in the first place. By it first building a model of reality (out of...
On 31 March 2007 06:58 PM, Marvin Minsky wrote in ai-philosophy: MM>> What do you mean by "the issue is ..."? <<MM Marvin ====== My apologies. That language...
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/monism/ I'm a big fan of SEP generally, but this article has surprised me in two ways, mostly negative. I wonder if anyone...
... Yeah exactly. And "static spacetime interpretation" of relativity obviously leads to "fatalism" also all by itself. This is what Einstein claimed to be the...
... The point is that an appeal to block-universe fatalism does not rescue determinism because fatalism eschews causality, and determinism is a kind of...
... I said the Bell experiments don't prove reality is indeterministic since you can interpret them with deterministic models. What are you saying? -Anssi...
... Einstein ... life. Yet he ... need for ... since ... Such deterministic models are either 1) not really deterministic (block universe, MW) or 2)...
I've read neither, just noticed both in a browse at the bookstore. The Hofstadter seems brand new. The Penrose looks like it's been out a couple of years....
Anssi, You don't seem to grasp the key aspect of adaptivity - it involves either adopting a new set of rules, or positively breaking the rules, when your...
... walk in ... fatalism ... relativity ... what ... manner and ... particle can ... rescue ... is a ... saying? ... You are saying, that the idea which says...
... either adopting a new set of rules, or positively breaking the rules, when your existing ways of doing things don't work.. ... adaptive, you must explain ...
... That is just a trivial corollary of the fact that you can always reject causality in favour of an almighty universe-sized coincidence. But that rejection...
... <anssih@> ... a ... is ... is ... his ... without any ... not ... determinism ... indeterministic ... you ... this ... bell ... local ... coincidence. ...
[This was posted on the Mind and Brain group. Comments?] Stan Franklin: Decades back Walter Freeman showed that olfactory perception in rabbits could not be...
... Yeah, ificult to tell exactly what they did from the summary given, however, 1 - chaos and randomness are not at all the same thing. 2 - one paper doesn't...
I cannot make any sense of this report. It seems rather muddled, and this could be because you read an adaptation of a news release issued by a publicity...
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