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... Technically speaking, I'm not sure this is correct. What can we say about the difficulty of *the* process of generating strings (not just any "random"...
John J. Gagne
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Michael notes that the complexity of a random string is higher than that of a poem of similar length, but asserts that it is harder to learn to generate poetry...
Bill Modlin
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... Then should any model of the brain also have the same difficulty in generating random sequences? JC...
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... I think we mostly agree... The term model implies the existence of a shorter descriptions in some fixed universal description language. Therefore...
John J. Gagne
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... I'd like to, but I have to clean the bathroom. For now I'll just note that babies are born babbling (well, maybe not literally, but they do a lot of...
Michael Olea
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... Try a thought experiment. Imagine a process that generates a bit stream by flipping a "fair coin". It emits a '0' for heads, '1' for tails. Also suppose...
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On Dec 1, 2008, at 1:17 PM, Michael Olea hit the send button instead of the save button :-(...
Michael Olea
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... Probably yes. ... Probably yes. LOL. True, as the baby learns more, its outputs become more organized and less random. The baby's neural systems start out...
Bill Modlin
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... Yes. Baby babbling is usually quite repetitive. ... No, is what I want to say. But, I'm not sure this is such an easy question to answer. There is...
John J. Gagne
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... <somewhat snide remarks> Actually, on thinking more about it, I'm not sure whether I'm right or wrong about this, or whether there is a "right" answer. ...
Bill Modlin
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... Yes. A good example of this was Claude Shannon's "penny matching" machine, which usually beat a person by about 5%. Knowing the algorithm it used,...
Marvin Minsky
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... I'm not trying to "win". What? Why are you looking at me like that? Investigating measures of the complexity of a time-series (whether it is...
Michael Olea
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This really rocks... http://video.stumbleupon.com/#p=0oydjilqgz I've seen his work before but never in such detail. I find the binary computer he built very...
John J. Gagne
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... Let me put it another way: There are those who want to fiddle around with the shapes of wings. There are those who want to build a science of aerodynamics....
Michael Olea
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... The next time someone accuses me of "trying to reinvent the wheel" (which happens a lot), I'll point them to this. -- M....
Michael Olea
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... If you know the model, fair coin generates stream of bits, then you know that past bits tell you nothing at all about future bits. But isn't that cheating?...
Michael Olea
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Bayesian: Socrates is probably a man. Most men are mortal. Socrates will likely die. Citizen: It's true! I had a dog named Socrates, and he died! Cartoonist: ...
Michael Olea
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... The fact that we are talking about natural language makes such statements very hard to grapple with. Natural languages change over time, have an almost...
John J. Gagne
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... ;-) http://www.princeton.edu/~wbialek/learning_links.html "We have reached an understanding of the connections between learning and complexity as unified...
Michael Olea
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... ... How does predictive power equate with knowledge and how is this related to sematic vs. episodic knowledge? Also each learning system must have a limit....
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... I find this quote relevant to your comments: http://www.princeton.edu/~wbialek/our_papers/bnt_01a.pdf quote: Put bluntly, nonpredictive information is...
John J. Gagne
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... I think this tells us something about the fundamental limit of the meaning of Kolmogorov complexity. What if the sentence or poem is generated quantum...
Jim Whitescarver
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... <snip> ... How are you defining "quantum complexity"??? Consider the following quote: http://tinyurl.com/6lcrw5 quote Formal Systems It can readily be...
John J. Gagne
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... I thought I should be less cryptic... so here I go: As far as I can tell, it is your use of this term "quantum complexity" that is within "the realm of...
John J. Gagne
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John, Indeterminacy in quantum systems requires three degrees of freedom, or 3 qubits, just as we need three independent variables to generate chaos in...
Jim Whitescarver
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... As long as one of those three degrees is labeled "undecidable" I'm good with it. It's only when someone wishes to apply the tag "both" in any serious...
John J. Gagne
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... Agreed, we only see discrete outcomes. If decidable, we get a deterministic outcome, otherwise we get a random outcome. However, if we ask what outcomes...
Jim Whitescarver
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... Shaka, when the walls fell... ... Temba, his arms wide ... Zinda, his face black, his eyes red!!! ... Sokath, his eyes uncovered! Picard and Dathon at...
John J. Gagne
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John, Your cathartic culmination of our meta allegorical communications is tempered only by my consternation over the unchallenged statement of "irreducible...
Jim Whitescarver
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Dec 4, 2008
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... If the "statement" is an assertion then it was rightly unchallenged on my part. If the statement is not an assertion then "irreducible randomness" remains...
John J. Gagne
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