Happy New Year to all us yahoo-AI-philosophy geeks. ... You use the term "emotional need" but this begs the the question do we "need" emotions at all? I been ...
... Emotions are those things that put us into motion, they are the feelings we get when motivated to action. It is the emotion of fear that keeps us running....
... I'm not sure why you feel motivated to explaining this. It must be that you feel that your use of the term emotion here is somehow different than mine? I...
... They don't generate logically synthesized behaviors. They are part of the goals of the system which is analogous to the purpose of a program. JC...
... OK, emotions don't generate logically synthesized behaviors. What should we call that which does generate logically synthesized behaviors? Best guess or...
... The logical functions? Our logical functions seem to depend on the same machinery that deals with the relations between physical objects. Instead of just...
I think I agree with JC about this. The term "logical" is too-often understood to mean a formal systems with axioms and rigid rules of inference. I think a...
The term "self-programming" isn't very helpful by itself: our brains have evolved a great many learning schemes, representations, prediction methods...
... Ok. We start like this: environment <-> A-Brain1 add a duplicate, A-Brain2 environment <-> A-Brain1 <-> A-Brain2 and let A-Brain2 evolve into a B-Brain. ...
... You seem to be trapped in a curious loop, by assuming that people begin with nothing, and then invent all their ways to think. A better view is that our...
... No I don't believe in the blank slate. It is ok for the programmer to build stuff in but that stuff at this point in time seems to lack the open ended...
I believe that i can write a program that can learn how to play chess and improve itself over time without any programming help. That would be a great paper. ...
... But would it *want* to learn to play chess? The best example of such programs might be TD-Gammon. But like most of these learning programs they work best...
... You might find this interesting... http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=one-world-many-minds quote One of the most common misconceptions about brain...
No the solution must be valid for any game or any problem. The training sequence has already been designed it is like in the movie war games we must proceed...
... Just as the eye has evolved separately in different species. Unlike the mollusc our retinae is stuck on back the front and thus has a blind spot and is...
... I wonder if evolution also required the training sequence to be of paramount importance? Certainly once you learn to do something one way it is hard to...
... Yes, but the initial system will be pretty powerless so giving it a badly designed "textbook" may cause it to fail. In later stages, the system may be more...
... Yes. Certainly this tells us something about the problem space we are considering. Saying the human brain is the result of 400 mega-years of evolution is a...
... <john_j_gagne@...> wrote: Re: [ART-tac] Designing a benevolent autonomous AI ... There may be millions of protein sequences that produce the same...
Hi all, This may be of interest to your educational and professional pursuits. Regards! Scott ========== RAPID PROGRESS MARKETING AND MODELING ANNOUNCES DATA...
... [responding to JC] ... I don't see JC as holding the position you argue against. But since you brought it up I'd like a clarification of your own...
... No, because that would completely miss the point;, which is that we start out with some 'instinctive' ways to learn and then go on to learn new and more...
So... at what point did we solve the problem of AI? Because apparently we have, now that the discussion is about how to make it benevolent. Not that I have...
Hi Ray, ... That's a good point. I asked the question just in case we solve AI ;) Still fitting for a philosophy group, no? Since most philosophers seem to...
... I don't think evolution has anything to do with right or wrong. Also I suspect the mechanisms of evolution are evolving both at the molecular level and at...
... Hmmm, I think these two ideas are in conflict: Idea #1, evolution has nothing to do with right and wrong. Idea #2, the mechanisms of evolution include...
... We make the distinction between natural vs. artificial just as we make the distinction between living and non-living. At the molecular level there is no...
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