From: ai-philosophy@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ai- ... Very well said. In the minute fidelity of the noise lies some of the most important information, yet of...
... Something like that. I pictured noise as symptomatic of the very force that animates the universe and gives it life, indeed defines life. There was an...
... This doesn't seem to be quite the right way to approach the question. The classical standard for "understanding" something, some sentence, is being able to...
I am going to recap a thought experiment, that we discussed many times on c.a.p and elsewhere. I was watching an episode of the Terminator series, in which the...
I think you're making two mistakes. 1. Just because a writer makes a robot say a particular line of dialogue, doesn't lend the idea credence. 2. Complexity and...
... Ah, but my point is a little more than that. I am not assuming a particular explanation of qualia, and I am simply expressing that it may be impossible to...
... Bravo Eray! As far as I can tell there is no such method possible. Currently in physics there has been some controversy concerning the existence of black...
... This is a philosophy group, so just about anything is grist for the mill, but as far as science is concerned, phenomena without effects are the subject...
... Playing the devil's advocate, if Penrose were right, this would probably mean that SE is not epiphenomenal, as I am hoping that if the wave function is...
... Agreed that a Turing Test may be too superficial. However, this discussion has raised suggestions that it may be impossible to distinguish a person who...
... Those who know something about the brain wouldn't think that these perceptions come without intensive computation. ... Just as SHRDLU could say nothing...
... A failure to disprove such a supposition does not validate it. The burden of proof is on you to show that numbers do feel. Otherwise we can demand evidence...
... Do you have any evidence for "feelings cannot be formed out of [information-based processes]"? It seems to me that you're making exactly the same kind of...
... Five lines of thought: 1. I'm pretty confident that long before any life forms had any notions about information, they had feelings. At the least,...
... I don't think so because Eray took no stance either way. But you did when you said: "a bunch of numbers being crunched doesn't feel anything" Therefore the...
... Yes, you're right, I am simply stating that we don't know *if* that is the case, I am not really asserting for or against it. To the best of my knowledge,...
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 5:33 AM, Pierre-Normand Houle ... As Marvin would say, it's a suitcase word. And as previously discussed in the parent thread, I'm...
... Barring any particular explanation of qualia, I can't think of any better reason for granting possession of the property of qualia to agents (all agents,...
1. Whenever my brain is working properly (in its main mode), I am aware that I have a mind. 2. When something changes in my mind, something surely changes...
... I think that the discussions I've seen of this are despicably superficial. In an earlier draft of The Emotion Machine, I wrote the following criticism of...
Consider this, wikipedia used the phrase: "The notion of a philosophical zombie" Certainly a "notion" implies some kind of understanding of zombies. No? But if...
... Bingo, Bango, Bongo, and Irving, I think we have a winner! Sure, any system capable of interpreting a situation which requires a massive and immediate...
... Yes, I agree. Of course, there is no problem with the idea of a machine that always behaves in the same way as does some particular person—let's call...
... That's a nice way to look at the situation. Interesting: religious people find it hard explain why a benevolent God would endow us with 'suffering.' But ...
... Yes, but why deprive evolution of the credit for aspirin? By the previous argument, it was she who provided the system capable of high level reasoning and...
Bob: I just had the oddest dream. Alice: You don't say. Bob: But I do say. I was in a musuem looking at great works of art, when all of a sudden a burning bush...
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