http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/471786.stm http://www.jneurosci.org/cgi/content/abstract/19/18/8036 I know that there are people who still deny that...
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Eray Ozkural
examachine
Mar 6, 2009 2:13 pm
https://workshops.stanford.edu/cognitionandlanguage/event/20081204t001500?mini=calendar/2008-12 Did anybody catch that talk? It seems people are still arguing...
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iro3isdx
Mar 6, 2009 11:30 pm
... I guessing that you don't understand why people deny that there are images in the brain. For if you understood what they are denying, you would realize...
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Eray Ozkural
examachine
Mar 7, 2009 3:08 am
... No, no, no. Those same idiots would still deny that there are any representations in the brain even if we decoded the output and long term memory of every...
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jgkjcasey
Mar 7, 2009 3:53 am
... I don't think the fact that images are mapped onto the LGN of a cat proves that is what the cat sees anymore than the mapping of a webcam image into the...
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Michael Olea
m_r_olea
Mar 7, 2009 6:08 am
... So ... Seeing is behavior? ;-\...
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Marvin Minsky
minskymarvin
Mar 7, 2009 6:19 am
... In psychology, the word 'behavior' means externally observable activity. I think most everyone would agree that Seeing (and Thinking) are Mental Activities...
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Michael Olea
m_r_olea
Mar 7, 2009 6:36 am
... You know, no doubt, about the experiments in which subjects wear goggles that turn the visual field upside down. After a while, a few days of wearing them,...
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Bhupinder Singh Anand
bhup_anand
Mar 7, 2009 8:38 am
Wouldn't this discussion be more productive if we could agree that my perception (or that of any homo sapien) of what my TV 'sees' is the image that it shows...
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Eray Ozkural
examachine
Mar 7, 2009 11:22 am
... That's true, and it's not "inaccessible, incomprehensible, unanalyzable" either. I am telling you folks that some pretty naive assumptions are preventing...
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Eray Ozkural
examachine
Mar 7, 2009 1:53 pm
At the outset, those problems might seem as if they will remain philosophy forever. Do you know if there is any research to determine if color experience is...
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Eray Ozkural
examachine
Mar 7, 2009 2:05 pm
[in which I give a conclusive answer to what makes an image in the brain] ... Okay, let me just say that there is no tomato in a photograph of a tomato. And...
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Jack Spade
sciencelover92
Mar 7, 2009 3:25 pm
I would like to update my knowledge of who is working on AI and how close they are to a breakthrough. List of Artificial Intelligence Researchers and projects ...
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Michael Olea
m_r_olea
Mar 7, 2009 5:55 pm
... Cool paper, Eray; very much in the tradition of Rieke, Warland, Bialek, and their colleagues. It shows at least 3 things: 1) High mutual information (in...
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Michael Olea
m_r_olea
Mar 7, 2009 6:11 pm
... You might want to add to your list Sebastian Thrun of DARPA Grand Challenge / Autonomous Vehicle fame: http://robots.stanford.edu/...
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jgkjcasey
Mar 7, 2009 6:54 pm
... So you get an image of my wife in the small square on the top-left hand side of your visual field. Do you recognize that image as being my wife? That is...
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Eray Ozkural
examachine
Mar 7, 2009 6:58 pm
To provide focus you might be able to move the image around that is not a problem for the thought experiment I suggest :) Consider it right in the centre, if...
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Peter Brawley
pzbrawl1937
Mar 7, 2009 7:04 pm
John, ... Sure, it's early days. Nobody imagines the visual cortex is all there is to seeing. PB...
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jgkjcasey
Mar 7, 2009 10:04 pm
... But do they imagine that having a representation is seeing? That if we decode this represention we magically know what they are seeing? My point was it is...
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iro3isdx
Mar 7, 2009 10:46 pm
... Of course it is subjectively variable. Otherwise there would be no such thing as color blindness. Perhaps you need to rephrase what you are asking....
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iro3isdx
Mar 8, 2009 2:16 am
... There are several kinds of statement one might make: (1) The brain contains information about the world; (2) The brain contains a representation of the...
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Eray Ozkural
examachine
Mar 8, 2009 2:33 am
... Is my green the same as your green? For instance. -- Eray Ozkural, PhD candidate. Comp. Sci. Dept., Bilkent University, Ankara Research Assistant, Erendiz...
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iro3isdx
Mar 8, 2009 3:52 am
... There are things that most people see as blue, that I see as green....
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Eray Ozkural
examachine
Mar 8, 2009 12:46 pm
... But that is not what I ask. In perfectly healthy two people, are their greens the same? -- Eray Ozkural, PhD candidate. Comp. Sci. Dept., Bilkent...
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Eray Ozkural
examachine
Mar 8, 2009 3:04 pm
I think the most common mistake is that we tend to ask the wrong questions in phil. of mind. I've come to believe that people waste their time on unproductive ...
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FastDado
Mar 8, 2009 3:29 pm
... close they are to a breakthrough. ... Terrence Sejnowski - bio at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Sejnowski ...
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jgkjcasey
Mar 8, 2009 7:01 pm
... Philosophising cannot tell you how the world is, for that can only from empirical investigation. It can pose questions. It can analyse the results of an...
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Eray Ozkural
examachine
Mar 8, 2009 7:08 pm
... It's important if you are designing a telepathy hardware :D Best, -- Eray Ozkural, PhD candidate. Comp. Sci. Dept., Bilkent University, Ankara Research...
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jgkjcasey
Mar 8, 2009 8:41 pm
... What is important if you are designing telepathy hardware? A complete account of why the Self asks such a question or a complete account of the color ...
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iro3isdx
Mar 8, 2009 9:10 pm
... I'm perfectly healthy. The fact that most of the worlds population have a different discrimination between blue and green is not a reflection on my...
