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16396
... And what is the difference from lumping human behaviour under the term "intelligence", a subject that cannot even be defined, let alone characterized, and...
Joe Legris
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Jun 2, 2009
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16397
Eray Ozkural wrote: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ai-philosophy/message/16373 ... Obviously there are people who don't think it impossible. I find the...
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Jun 2, 2009
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16398
How are chalmers's philosophical zombies possible? Remember: all the physical facts are the same. So how come the zombie is different? Explain. I suspect you...
Eray Ozkural
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Jun 2, 2009
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16399
... Not "silly" I would say, but flawed and, therefore, mistaken. As to the issue of "intentionality", the real question is, first, what do we mean by it and,...
Stuart W. Mirsky
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Jun 2, 2009
10:47 pm
16400
Also as I said he seems to be confusing intentionality with all sorts of things like experience. I might experience pain yet know nothing of its cause or...
Eray Ozkural
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Jun 3, 2009
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16401
... It seems to me that this problem was solved, in the early days of AI, by the concept proposed by Newell and Simon, in their 1960 paper on their proposal...
Marvin Minsky
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Jun 3, 2009
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16402
... I prefer "aboutness" myself but "intentionality" sounds so much more official! One thing I don't think, though, is that it makes sense to equate it with...
Stuart W. Mirsky
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Jun 3, 2009
9:28 am
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... I had started a different topic. But Eray responded http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ai-philosophy/message/16398 only about zombies. So I am replying...
iro3isdx
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Jun 3, 2009
5:40 pm
16404
... Unfortunately, a lot has been written that makes in seem a bit mystical. But I'll brush that aside to try to get to something more useful. I see it...
iro3isdx
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Jun 3, 2009
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16405
... It doesn't particularly matter to me, whether pain and hunger are considered to not involve intentionality....
iro3isdx
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Jun 3, 2009
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16406
... Yes, exactly! Neuropsychology's whole content is about providing bridge laws between sentences in psychology and sentences in neurology. Predicate dualists...
Eray Ozkural
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Jun 3, 2009
7:53 pm
16407
Eray, ... It's about finding explanatory relatonships, not about discovering reductionist bridge laws. ... No, Eray. Predicate dualism requires nothing like...
Peter Brawley
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Jun 3, 2009
8:11 pm
16408
... You mean a human mind! Not all AI researchers are interested in building a human mind. Actually, some of them must despise the idea, I think. Because then...
Eray Ozkural
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Jun 3, 2009
11:24 pm
16409
On Thursday, June 04, 2009 4:53 AM, Eray Ozkural wrote in ai-philosophy@yahoogroups.com: EO>> You mean … <<EO Eray ==== Bravo. An excellent post. Educative...
Bhupinder Singh Anand
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Jun 3, 2009
11:46 pm
16410
... Correction: readily observable. We don't observe atoms easily either, but we have a lot of means to talk about them "saliently". That's one of the adverbs...
Eray Ozkural
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Jun 4, 2009
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16411
... I thought by using the form "observable" rather than "observed" it was clear I was referring to both actual and potential observations! ... I actually...
Stuart W. Mirsky
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Jun 4, 2009
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16412
I must be losing it! I thought I responded to this one already. Well, maybe the Internet just ate it! ... Well, yes, a human-like mind, of course. That's what...
Stuart W. Mirsky
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Jun 5, 2009
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16413
... Why not? ... Yes, he does pay lip service to that but 1) as you note, he fails to explicate how, even in principle (fair enough for a philosopher not...
Stuart W. Mirsky
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Jun 5, 2009
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16414
... We disagree here. I think the ethical questions will turn out to be very important. People want slaves, apparently. You said it yourself. How ethical is...
Eray Ozkural
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Jun 5, 2009
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16415
... I didn't say it wasn't important! I said it wasn't relevant to the question we're addressing here: what can and cannot be done? ... Constructing...
Stuart W. Mirsky
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Jun 5, 2009
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16416
... I spent some time trying to solve the problem. And the difficulty that arose was the issue of what drives decision making in an intelligent system. I...
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Jun 5, 2009
10:51 pm
16417
... I don't like this sort of handwaving. Sometime ago, a bunch of Israelite idiots on a mailing list were boasting about one of their publications, I load it...
Eray Ozkural
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Jun 5, 2009
11:01 pm
16418
... That wasn't me. And I cannot see any reason for you to introduce that, other than to use ridicule where thoughful discussion would be more appropriate. ...
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Jun 6, 2009
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16419
... If those "homeostatic" biological processes can be simulated on a digital computer, your argument boils down to, well, nothing. If you haven't realized...
Eray Ozkural
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Jun 6, 2009
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16420
... Actually, that's a completely wrong conclusion. But you have not realized that....
iro3isdx
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Jun 6, 2009
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16421
... Oh really? What did you mean when you said that: "There seems to be an assumption there, that all processes are computations. I cannot see any basis for...
Eray Ozkural
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Jun 6, 2009
2:57 pm
16422
... Perhaps you could start by providing a definition of "intelligence" - preferably one for which there is no disagreement....
iro3isdx
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Jun 6, 2009
3:16 pm
16423
... That's obvious: Turing Test criteria. So, answer the question instead of evasion? -- Eray Ozkural, PhD candidate. Comp. Sci. Dept., Bilkent University,...
Eray Ozkural
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Jun 6, 2009
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16424
... That's rather useless. Homeostatic processes are adaptive to changes in the environment. And adaptation is a kind of learning. Most people think of...
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Jun 7, 2009
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16425
... Thank you, but I happen to have had high-school biology classes and I know what homeostasis is. So, what is it about homeostatic processes that makes it...
Eray Ozkural
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