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There is an urban myth floating about: "...Gram for gram, the brain is far and away the most complex object we know of in the universe,...." This is simply not...
ray scanlon
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Jul 1, 2005
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2750
... Why stop at genome? JJG...
John J. Gagne
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2751
... nervous ... the ... Because, this is the year 2005--the genome is where it's at. Every age finds its challenge in the world of experience. Yesterday it was...
ray scanlon
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2752
... Are you speaking for yourself or humanity? I would accept this statement if applied to "Ray" but reject it if applied to humanity. What about as applied to...
John J. Gagne
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2753
... Do you have a specific measure of complexity in mind? How does one decide whether the brain or the genome is more complex? m -- "In theory, there is no...
Mitchell Timin
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Jul 1, 2005
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2754
... If the genome includes brains then certainly it's more complex. The question is what is the complexity to weight ratio of the genome? JJG...
John J. Gagne
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2755
... The genome is far more ... From Gary Marcus, "The Birth of the Mind: How a Tiny Number of Genes Creates the Complexities of the Human Mind", 2004, pg 153...
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Jul 1, 2005
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2756
... Is that possible? An adult body contains a couple of trillion copies of g, is the result of myriad interactions between the environment and g, surrounds...
jrstern
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Jul 1, 2005
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2757
... No, it is not possible according to information theory. However, Ray had in mind, as John correctly pointed out, complexity density e.g. complexity per...
Eray Ozkural
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Jul 1, 2005
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2758
... Well, everyone must meet their density. Er, destiny. Whatever. ... Josh...
jrstern
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Jul 2, 2005
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2759
... I wonder how random the human genome is. I guess I should get more earthly curiosities, too :) Cheers, -- Eray Ozkural (exa), PhD candidate. Comp. Sci....
Eray Ozkural
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Jul 2, 2005
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2760
... An interesting, important, and difficult question. IMHO. What can we say about it? I suppose it's about as random as the genomes for cats and cactus and...
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Jul 2, 2005
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2761
Recall if you will that UCLA seminar announcement, where (just to make a liar out of me!) they now have posted that their initial reading will be of an article...
jrstern
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Jul 2, 2005
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2762
jrstern writes: " ... Only in the Never, Never Land of philosophy. I am of the opinion that writer of the original quote (the brain is the most complex etc.)...
ray scanlon
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Jul 2, 2005
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... There is no randomness. The DNA is reproduced atom for atom, when the process works correctly. When it does not, there is a mutation--which is then...
ray scanlon
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Jul 2, 2005
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2764
... I agree in so far as "randomness" applies to quantum magical non- causal nonsense. But in my opinion, Chaitin gives a very good definition of randomness....
John J. Gagne
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Jul 2, 2005
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2765
... I would expect the genome sequence to be only partially random as Joshua explained. Cheers, -- Eray Ozkural (exa), PhD candidate. Comp. Sci. Dept.,...
Eray Ozkural
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Jul 2, 2005
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2766
... patiently. ... Thank you, Eray. Still, I am just a learner. ... Yes, I understood that later. I am sorry. ... system like ... consider ... Yes, of course. ...
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Jul 2, 2005
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2767
I am just guessing, but I think that it may mean that it took 15 years for computer enthusiasts to really begin to understand the potential and the limits of...
Jim Bromer
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2768
Hi there, Let's say we wanted to have the most general theory of common sense possible, that is a theory of common sense that accounts not only for human-like...
Eray Ozkural
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2769
... we ... Well, I'll be totally honest I don't know. But, I do know that there are DNA sequences which are known in full. For each of those known sequences...
John J. Gagne
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2770
... A,G,C,T ... by ... there ... compress ... me ... Sorry for replying to my own post... But I think I have an answer to my own question (at least a partial...
John J. Gagne
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2771
... As Chaitin points out, for biological evolution, reducing program size is not the only objective. Among others, it seems we need: - fault tolerance -...
Eray Ozkural
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2772
... size ... Are you suggesting some type of (maybe golden) ratio of: - fault tolerance (redundancy) - efficiency (string length) If so I think were moving in...
John J. Gagne
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Jul 2, 2005
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2773
... I don't want to get hung up on this, but I suppose efficiency would have to do with the computational resources required in addition to program size. ...
Eray Ozkural
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... I'm sure you're right but can we evaluate the "computational resources required" based on it's relation to "string length efficiency"? I hope I'm making...
John J. Gagne
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2775
There must be many high-order interactions here, between the evolution of the dna itself, how it is synthesized, decoded, and the costs of other 'marketing'...
Marvin Minsky
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Jul 2, 2005
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2776
... You are confusing randomness, compressability, and information content. Every string of length N has an equivalent (potential) information content...
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2777
... the ... because ... the ... Yes, these pairs and triplets are examples of context sensitive redundancy. If one of the four were statistically more...
John J. Gagne
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... I ... comparison ... Well, I don't think that I am. But, these three terms are very tightly related to each other and it wouldn't surprise me too much to...
John J. Gagne
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