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7163
I suspect Mr. Tegmark may be right. I think the initial signal is at a scale much smaller than where we start to observe QM effects, and the first...
Ray Gardener
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May 1, 2006
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7164
... "This conclusion disagrees with suggestions that [...]quantum **coherence** is related to consciousness in a fundamental way." [ emphasis added ] The...
Peter D Jones
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May 1, 2006
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7165
... one ... the ... If it is overturnable, it was never fully deterministic in the first place....
Peter D Jones
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May 1, 2006
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7166
... Where do your desires come from ? ... The missing ingredient being...? ... First write a programme that implements rationallity... ... control, and ... ...
Peter D Jones
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May 1, 2006
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7167
... You were free to do something if you could have done otherwise. "could have done otherwise" implies indeterminism. Indeterminism implies lack of suffient...
Peter D Jones
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May 1, 2006
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7168
... I disagree with your conclusion. You seem to attribute some mystical meaning to "free". What do you mean by "free"? Best, -- Eray Ozkural (exa), PhD...
Eray Ozkural
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May 1, 2006
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7169
... Surely the "rest of the universe" for me contains other people. If they can change their futures , that will have an effect on my future. ... One man can...
Peter D Jones
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May 1, 2006
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7170
... No, my arguments are 100% naturalistic. ... Not subject to external constraint, and able to have done or chose otherwise under a given set of...
Peter D Jones
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May 1, 2006
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7171
... This would seem to make a random number generator free in its output, and all deterministic procedures whatsoever nonfree. Do you really think that is the...
Eray Ozkural
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May 1, 2006
1:37 pm
7172
... the ... the ... effect on ... and ... still ... scale, ... level), ... On a ... Yeah I get that. But there are times when these small acts of "freewill"...
Ivan
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May 1, 2006
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7173
Also, I posted that from my 2001 post (on another group) to point out some kind of a similarity to what Ray posted a few posts back. I do not assert the...
Ivan
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May 1, 2006
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7174
... I have offered the following definition of FW: "the ability to make rational choices that are not entirely determined by prior events". RNG's per se have...
Peter D Jones
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May 1, 2006
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7175
... The choice must not be rational; consider the case when nobody is able to confirm/verify that a choice was made rational. So "the ability to make (even...
Klaus D. Witzel
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May 1, 2006
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7176
... able to ... Must not be , or may not be ? ... impressed by ... a number ... No; the presence of rationality is a necessary criterion for Free Will....
Peter D Jones
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May 1, 2006
4:49 pm
7177
... Since I suppose that free will is the reason why a rational or an irrational choice can be made: both (w.o.w. don't care). ... It is perhaps a matter of...
Klaus D. Witzel
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May 1, 2006
5:08 pm
7178
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7179
... In a recent issue of Nature (440, 611; 2006), Christoph Koch argues that it is highly improbable (see the uploaded file). However, I think he misses one...
Peter Jedlicka
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May 1, 2006
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7180
I rather like that... brings to mind a physics joke. :) Bob: Hi Alice, whatcha doing? Alice: Hi Bob. I'm building a gravity wave detector. Bob: Far out. Those...
Ray Gardener
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May 1, 2006
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7181
... firing ... argues that it is highly improbable (see the uploaded file). However, ... probably cannot display macroscopic quantum (i.e. classically ...
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May 1, 2006
8:42 pm
7182
... Exactly what I say in my complexity paper, as "mild indeterminacy". It should be possible to show this theoretically, too, which is why I got fixated on...
Eray Ozkural
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May 1, 2006
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7183
... OK. Let's say QM has nothing to do with consciousness. Does that mean every *classical* system is conscious ? (Or maybe "X is necessary for F" doesn't mean...
Peter D Jones
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7184
... I'm sorry but you seem to draw a nonsensical conclusion, especially for the fact that there is no such thing as a classical system. But even if there were...
Eray Ozkural
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May 1, 2006
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7185
... What conclusion do you **think** I am drawing ? I agree that "if classical physics is connected with consciousness, all classical systems will be...
Peter D Jones
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May 2, 2006
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7186
... In some interpretations of QM, the hot topic is where is the boarder between classical and quantum behavior. If one accepts "wave collapse" as an...
Peter Jedlicka
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May 2, 2006
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7187
... But the conclusion of Dan Michaels is not nonsensical. If consciousness is a low-level basic property that QM gives, such as indeterminacy, then it is...
Eray Ozkural
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May 2, 2006
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7188
... And if QM is merely necessary for consciousnessm, and not sufficient, it is not, some othe ingredient being required. So this is at best an objection to...
Peter D Jones
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May 2, 2006
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7189
... This is no explanation. We are not concerned with whom uses the algorithm. We are concerned with whether an implementation of randomized quicksort *has*...
Eray Ozkural
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May 2, 2006
10:53 am
7190
... Implementation of a quicksort is not in itself rationality,so: no....
Peter D Jones
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May 2, 2006
11:08 am
7191
... So, what kind of a system has rationality? Best, -- Eray Ozkural (exa), PhD candidate. Comp. Sci. Dept., Bilkent University, Ankara ...
Eray Ozkural
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May 2, 2006
11:19 am
7192
... theory, ... going ... constant of ... now :) ... Yeah, what I said in the rest of my post, namely that real-world systems that "self-organize" have many...
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