There has beens some talk about the possibility of a 'Down Under' gathering based on the JavaPosse Roundup format held in Crested Butte, Colorado. If you are...
Hi All, Just a reminder about the Java Power Tools Bootcamp<http://www.wakaleo.com/training/java-power-tools-bootcamp> sessions coming up in 2009, which...
Does anyone on this mailing list have any strong feelings about the fact that those wonderful people who brought you websphere and swt are in discussions to by...
Martin, IBM are large enough to have internal competition and I don't see IBM closing down SUN business models unless those business models proved detrimental...
Hey! I *like* SWT. Much better GUI than Swing, IMHO. I'd say it depends on what happens with the Sun engineering groups. Sun seems to be cursed with...
Hi Dennis The biggest issue I see is that SUN and IBM have very different cultures (internally and very often extrapolating to customers/developer/community) ...
... You appear to inhabit a different universe from the one I inhabit. :-) ... Certainly a lot of things have been moved to open source. But Sun has been using...
It will be a sad day. So many of the technologies I admire and use every day have come out of Sun. IBM is at the opposite end of that spectrum. Craig...
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Hmmm,... and SWT wasn't a "we can do it better" moment for IBM? :) Cheers Craig...
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SWT vs Swing is an old battle from the various SmallTalk wars. It is amusing that the battle is still raging, all these years later. Let's be honest, SWT vs...
Yes, it was. :-) It certainly has worked well for Eclipse and the relatively small number of other applications written using it (e.g., Azureus/Vuze). Swing...
... I agree. NetBeans has become a viable alternative again. Not sure about Microsoft being funky but I do respect many of their technical people like Erik...
... rant away. It's good to see some action on the ajug list. ... Great point about HotSpot. Java has HotSpot. The jewel in the crown. Microsoft have some...
interesting... first I heard of this rumors last night at Solaris UserGroup gathering at SUN and then when I got home I seen lots of emails coming in with this...
... not only that, but for example if you are a customer or a "partner" (ie having an established ongoing "relationship" with MS;) then even the sales/account...
I read an article this morning quoting the WSJ that this wasn't a buyout, but a merger. Is there any practical difference to that scenario??? ...
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Even if it were a reverse take over, it really doesn't change the sad truth that Sun's core money making strategy - selling hardware - has been hollowed out by...
Sun also has an incredibly harsh internal model for project approval, the competitive model they use for project selection has seen many good Java subproject...
Another e-mail that might be interest to people on this list... ... From: Jim Bethancourt Date: 2009/4/1 Subject: Google Ventures has been formed Hi all, It...
Hi all I have been told/requested by Sun that "we are running a Java Developer Day in Sydney on May the 19th. The registration site is up. Please go to : ...
It is similar, isn't it? Perhaps the world hasn't moved on as much as I thought it had in the intervening year... 2009/4/3 Oleg Kiorsak <kiorsak@...> ......
the only noticeable new topic on the new agenda is "WSIT" (aka "Metro"?) Admittedly, WSIT is a very important thing, but won't justify for me flying...