Hi ariaksatri2,

Where do I begin?

There are many systems available to achieve the work. There is eastern
and there is western, poss others.

It does not matter which way you choose, but there must be a "system
for influences (astrology)", a "system for relationships (QBL)" and
a "system for practise (lab work)". Without these 3 things the art
cannot resolve itself. There would be no system within
the "philosophy" to achieve the stone.

Western alchemy relies on the foundation of "astrology, QBL and lab
work". Eastern pathes to the stone must have a comparable system, else
it could not be achieved.

If western alchemy has "earth, fire, air, water and the quintencence",
eastern has "earth, fire, air, water and wood". Remember that
a "system" has "milestones", no matter what you may call them.

If eastern has no QBL, then what is Feng Shui? Is it not a system to
demonstrate the relationships of the astrological influences? Does Mah
Jong not contain all the same influences as the TARO (Gypsy QBL)and
other evolved playing cards?

I guess that most searchers have difficulty in coming to terms
with "voodoo" things like astrology and QBL. Occult is always frowned
apon by the church. One must have astrology and "a QBL type system" in
order to unlock the GREAT CRYPTIC PUZZLE - the Gordian Knot - which
has been left to us by the Wise of Old via the language of astrology
and QBL (or Feng Shui if you read Chinese).

It would have been so much easier had they written in plain language.
It could have all been said on an A4 page at font size 9! - but alas,
we would never have read THE ILLIAD, the "12 labours of Hercules" nor
THE NEW or OLD TESTAMENT or the KORAN.

Lux,

Bob


--- In alchemy2@yahoogroups.com, "ariaksatri2" <aryaksatriya@...>
wrote:
>
> "mr.bobyoung" wrote <<Astrology is one third of the work in the
art.
> It is shared with QBL (kabalah) and lab work.>>
>
> Hello Bob:
>
> While the astrological arts (both Western and Eastern), are an
> important area of study for me, and Kabbalistic exegesis is also an
> area of personal importance; I have to respecfully disagree that
> Kabbalah is a certain "third" of the work. Essentially, because
> ALchemy is not exclusively of a Western nature. The Indian and
> Chinese schools, for example, come to mind, and naturally, there is
> no Kabbalah involved, yet they are quite successfull in what they do,
> using paradigms suited to their modalities, which are quite numerous.
>