----- Original Message -----

From: Alain

Hello everyone. I'm still enjoying my Ion very much. As you might have noticed though when you switch the portamento (glide) effect on, it works for the pitch of the oscillators, but if you have set some level of keyboard tracking for the filter cutoff frequency, the portamento does not control it. Resulting in an abrupt cutoff frequency change instead of following the oscillators pitch smoothly.

Solution: go into the matrix, add a new mod and choose "portamento effect" as source and "filter 1 freq" as destination with a 100% level.

That way, the cutoff frequency will glide in tandem with the oscillators pitch at the speed you choose in the portamento time setting. Great for inspired, expressive leads.

Now, I just wish the engineers would have allowed for different glide slopes. The only one available is unfortunately linear. Would have been nice to emulate the exponential glides of some Moog and Korg vintage machines...

Alain. 



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A web based reference tool (WIKI) for the ION/Micron is located at http://ion-micron.wikia.com Yahoo! Groups Links

The user 127 patch is the default/init patch. If that is written over, press the
program store button, go to page 3, and press [reset program] twice. That loads
a default patch into the temporary edit buffer and won't overwrite anything. If
there is no page 3 of program store, then your Ion is not on the current OS. The
no sound thing, not sure... are you sending a patch from computer to Ion, or
saving an edited patch to a new location? -Steve

--- In alesis-ion@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jantz
<doublejuniorbaconcheeseburger@...> wrote:
>
> I recently purchased an Alesis Ion, and have a few questions that I can't
> find the answers to in the manual.
>
> 1. Is there some sort of default/init patch somewhere on this thing?
> 2. If I save a new sound to a blank patch space, the new patch no longer
> makes any sound, even though all the settings are the same as before I saved
> it.  Any solutions?
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> --
> Give me the beach boys, and free my soul, I wanna get lost in that
> falsetto...
>

----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Jantz

To: alesis-ion@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 9:54 AM

Subject: [ion-micron] Ion New Patch, No sound

 

I recently purchased an Alesis Ion, and have a few questions that I can't find the answers to in the manual.

1. Is there some sort of default/init patch somewhere on this thing?

2. If I save a new sound to a blank patch space, the new patch no longer makes any sound, even though all the settings are the same as before I saved it.  Any solutions?

Thanks in advance!

--
Give me the beach boys, and free my soul, I wanna get lost in that falsetto...

Hi all,

Long time reader, first post... I too went through sysex update hell, trying
Midi Ox and Bome, and just like the previous posts, sysex97 worked perfectly the
first time.

Thanks to the previous posters, I never would have run across sysex97 otherwise.

--- In alesis-ion@yahoogroups.com, Josh <arandano@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> this is my first post here (been reading for a while!)
>
> Same problem with Micron OS update solved thanks to Andrew's comment about
> sysex97. It's a good program.
>
> Thanks! ;o)
>
>
> ^^Josh^^ 01001001 01110111 01100001 01101110 01110100 01110100 01101111
> 01100010 01100101 01101100 01101001 01100101 01110110 01100101
>
> 2008/7/8 Andrew <jrstubs@...>:
>
> >   I got it fixed, none of those programs worked. I came accross somebody
> > who recommended "sysex97" and that worked PERFECTLY the very first time, and
> > I went to 12 hours of hell!
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

If, when gliding between two notes spaced far apart, it seems to jump to midway
then start to glide, perhaps the front half of your tracking generator curve
needs to be changed.  You said you had -16 to 0 going from low to zero using an
inward curve... maybe just make this half zero all the way: point -16 at 0, up
to point 0 at 0.

--- In alesis-ion@yahoogroups.com, "elevenhzrobot" <11hzrobot@...> wrote:
>
> what about doing everything that you have just described, but put the sample
and hold after the tracking gen and before mod matrix (set the S&H smoothing
function high to get rid of the jumps)  So portamento effect> Tgen input >
Tgen=SH input > SH=mod source, filter1=dest.
>
> I have not tried it...just a thought.
>
>
>
> --- In alesis-ion@yahoogroups.com, "Alain" <hubertalain@> wrote:
> >
> > " Exponential glide may be possible, but not easy." Yep, you were never so
right! I've painstakingly drawn a sort of sine curve in the tracking generator
(from -100 at position -16 to 0 at position 0 curved inward, and from 0 at
position 0 to +100 at position +16 curved outward) .
> >
> > Then assigned portamento effect as its input. And in the matrix I set
Tracking generator as source and Filter 1 freq as destination at 100% level,
effectively modulating the cutoff of a self-oscillating MG4 filter with its
keyboard tracking set at 100%.
> > I've also set the Mod Wheel 2 to adjust portamento time for convenience. It
kind of works. The result IS an exponential glide.
> >
> > But if the gap between two notes is too great, instead of gliding smoothly
to the second note from the first, it jumps about half way between the two notes
and THEN glides to the final pitch of the second note. Maybe my levels are wrong
?
> >
> > I still think it wouldn't have been so difficult to include different glide
slopes in the portamento section, like on the Andromeda (AND a dedicated glide
time knob). And also hardwire it to the cutoff freq also (like on almost all
vintage analog synths with filter keyboard tracking).
> >
> > Oh well, can't have everything I guess...I'll keep on trying to get this
exponential thing it to work right...
> >
> > Alain.
> >
> >
> > --- In alesis-ion@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <uralmoto2001@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks for the tip; works well. Exponential glide may be possible, but not
easy. The tracking generator has both portamento level and portamento effect as
tracking inputs. Choose one (not sure which) as input, then draw the desired
exponential curve on the Tracking Generator screen. Then in mod matrix: Tracking
Generator->Portamento Rate, level +100, offset as necessary. I haven't tried
this, so I don't know how well it will work. The tracking generator is the only
parameter on the Ion that makes me want an editing program... -Steve
> > >
> > > --- In alesis-ion@yahoogroups.com, "Alain" <hubertalain@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hello everyone. I'm still enjoying my Ion very much. As you might have
noticed though when you switch the portamento (glide) effect on, it works for
the pitch of the oscillators, but if you have set some level of keyboard
tracking for the filter cutoff frequency, the portamento does not control it.
Resulting in an abrupt cutoff frequency change instead of following the
oscillators pitch smoothly.
> > > >
> > > > Solution: go into the matrix, add a new mod and choose "portamento
effect" as source and "filter 1 freq" as destination with a 100% level.
> > > >
> > > > That way, the cutoff frequency will glide in tandem with the oscillators
pitch at the speed you choose in the portamento time setting. Great for
inspired, expressive leads.
> > > >
> > > > Now, I just wish the engineers would have allowed for different glide
slopes. The only one available is unfortunately linear. Would have been nice to
emulate the exponential glides of some Moog and Korg vintage machines...
> > > >
> > > > Alain.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

what about doing everything that you have just described, but put the sample and
hold after the tracking gen and before mod matrix (set the S&H smoothing
function high to get rid of the jumps)  So portamento effect> Tgen input >
Tgen=SH input > SH=mod source, filter1=dest.

I have not tried it...just a thought.



--- In alesis-ion@yahoogroups.com, "Alain" <hubertalain@...> wrote:
>
> " Exponential glide may be possible, but not easy." Yep, you were never so
right! I've painstakingly drawn a sort of sine curve in the tracking generator
(from -100 at position -16 to 0 at position 0 curved inward, and from 0 at
position 0 to +100 at position +16 curved outward) .
>
> Then assigned portamento effect as its input. And in the matrix I set Tracking
generator as source and Filter 1 freq as destination at 100% level, effectively
modulating the cutoff of a self-oscillating MG4 filter with its keyboard
tracking set at 100%.
> I've also set the Mod Wheel 2 to adjust portamento time for convenience. It
kind of works. The result IS an exponential glide.
>
> But if the gap between two notes is too great, instead of gliding smoothly to
the second note from the first, it jumps about half way between the two notes
and THEN glides to the final pitch of the second note. Maybe my levels are wrong
?
>
> I still think it wouldn't have been so difficult to include different glide
slopes in the portamento section, like on the Andromeda (AND a dedicated glide
time knob). And also hardwire it to the cutoff freq also (like on almost all
vintage analog synths with filter keyboard tracking).
>
> Oh well, can't have everything I guess...I'll keep on trying to get this
exponential thing it to work right...
>
> Alain.
>
>
> --- In alesis-ion@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <uralmoto2001@> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the tip; works well. Exponential glide may be possible, but not
easy. The tracking generator has both portamento level and portamento effect as
tracking inputs. Choose one (not sure which) as input, then draw the desired
exponential curve on the Tracking Generator screen. Then in mod matrix: Tracking
Generator->Portamento Rate, level +100, offset as necessary. I haven't tried
this, so I don't know how well it will work. The tracking generator is the only
parameter on the Ion that makes me want an editing program... -Steve
> >
> > --- In alesis-ion@yahoogroups.com, "Alain" <hubertalain@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello everyone. I'm still enjoying my Ion very much. As you might have
noticed though when you switch the portamento (glide) effect on, it works for
the pitch of the oscillators, but if you have set some level of keyboard
tracking for the filter cutoff frequency, the portamento does not control it.
Resulting in an abrupt cutoff frequency change instead of following the
oscillators pitch smoothly.
> > >
> > > Solution: go into the matrix, add a new mod and choose "portamento effect"
as source and "filter 1 freq" as destination with a 100% level.
> > >
> > > That way, the cutoff frequency will glide in tandem with the oscillators
pitch at the speed you choose in the portamento time setting. Great for
inspired, expressive leads.
> > >
> > > Now, I just wish the engineers would have allowed for different glide
slopes. The only one available is unfortunately linear. Would have been nice to
emulate the exponential glides of some Moog and Korg vintage machines...
> > >
> > > Alain.
> > >
> >
>

You can do exactly what you want there.  I have a BCF connected to my computer,
and my 88key piano action Fusion controlling it and the other synths in my
studio.  Here's a step by step on how to connect the cables:

1) connect BCR using USB to your computer
2) select mode U4 on BCR (EDIT+STORE, twist encoder 1, then EXIT)
3) connect Casio MIDI OUT ==> BCR MIDI IN
4) connect BCR OUTB/THRU ==> Micron IN

The important thing you'll need is a DAW or other music program which can take
the MIDI IN from the BCR and then output the MIDI again back to the BCR.  I'm
using MIDI-OX, and in its MIDI Devices window selected BCF2000 for both the
input and the output.

Works great =)  It's so awesome having faders to adjust filter frequency,
resonance, env amount and type, all on the fly, and for both filters.  I've got
the 4 groups of encoders controlling ENV1 and ENV2 ADSRs, and OSC1-3 level,
balance, waveform, and waveshape.

It's like having an Ion Extreme.  I ordered a BCR just so I can have more knobs,
enough for almost every parameter in the Micron instantly accessible.

If you don't feel like turning on the computer, you can just use one of the
Standard modes instead of the USB modes on the BCR.  Good luck.



--- In alesis-ion@yahoogroups.com, "WyleL" <whizkid51594@...> wrote:
>
> 1. I just got a Micron the other day, and I'm wondering if it is possible to
directly connect the Behringer BCR2000 to the Micron. Everything I've read about
this specific question said that you need to route it through PureData and/or a
program like Micronizer or midiCTRL. I read a post about having to assign 2
knobs to each parameter for negative numbers and/or the high resolution
parameters (NRPN values), but the poster didn't say whether he/she was
controlling the Micron directly. I just want to clear this up.
>
> 2. Regardless of whether you can control the Micron directly or not, I want to
know if this setup with MIDI would work. Since the Micron is limited in octaves,
I plan to control my Micron with a 76-key Casio keyboard which has MIDI In and
Out jacks (no MIDI thru) while having my micron plugged in to the BCR2000 which
will be plugged in to my computer. I'm going to assume I would have to put the
Casio at the end of the chain because it has no MIDI thru, but I don't know much
about how MIDI works. My ideal setup would be this: BCR2000 plugged into my
computer with USB, working as a MIDI to USB interface, while also controlling my
micron (or the other plan is to have the computer control the micron while the
BCR controls the computer), and have the Casio keyboard control the micron but
do nothing else.
>
> I hope this isn't as confusing to people who know a lot about MIDI as it is to
me.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>

" Exponential glide may be possible, but not easy." Yep, you were never so
right! I've painstakingly drawn a sort of sine curve in the tracking generator
(from -100 at position -16 to 0 at position 0 curved inward, and from 0 at
position 0 to +100 at position +16 curved outward) .

Then assigned portamento effect as its input. And in the matrix I set Tracking
generator as source and Filter 1 freq as destination at 100% level, effectively
modulating the cutoff of a self-oscillating MG4 filter with its keyboard
tracking set at 100%.
I've also set the Mod Wheel 2 to adjust portamento time for convenience. It kind
of works. The result IS an exponential glide.

But if the gap between two notes is too great, instead of gliding smoothly to
the second note from the first, it jumps about half way between the two notes
and THEN glides to the final pitch of the second note. Maybe my levels are wrong
?

I still think it wouldn't have been so difficult to include different glide
slopes in the portamento section, like on the Andromeda (AND a dedicated glide
time knob). And also hardwire it to the cutoff freq also (like on almost all
vintage analog synths with filter keyboard tracking).

Oh well, can't have everything I guess...I'll keep on trying to get this
exponential thing it to work right...

Alain.


--- In alesis-ion@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <uralmoto2001@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the tip; works well. Exponential glide may be possible, but not
easy. The tracking generator has both portamento level and portamento effect as
tracking inputs. Choose one (not sure which) as input, then draw the desired
exponential curve on the Tracking Generator screen. Then in mod matrix: Tracking
Generator->Portamento Rate, level +100, offset as necessary. I haven't tried
this, so I don't know how well it will work. The tracking generator is the only
parameter on the Ion that makes me want an editing program... -Steve
>
> --- In alesis-ion@yahoogroups.com, "Alain" <hubertalain@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello everyone. I'm still enjoying my Ion very much. As you might have
noticed though when you switch the portamento (glide) effect on, it works for
the pitch of the oscillators, but if you have set some level of keyboard
tracking for the filter cutoff frequency, the portamento does not control it.
Resulting in an abrupt cutoff frequency change instead of following the
oscillators pitch smoothly.
> >
> > Solution: go into the matrix, add a new mod and choose "portamento effect"
as source and "filter 1 freq" as destination with a 100% level.
> >
> > That way, the cutoff frequency will glide in tandem with the oscillators
pitch at the speed you choose in the portamento time setting. Great for
inspired, expressive leads.
> >
> > Now, I just wish the engineers would have allowed for different glide
slopes. The only one available is unfortunately linear. Would have been nice to
emulate the exponential glides of some Moog and Korg vintage machines...
> >
> > Alain.
> >
>

Well, I have Live Lite, which should suffice for this (sending MIDI out). I
figured out the chain in the setup, with the Casio at the top and plug it in the
midi thru on the behringer. I'd need the template on the BCR2000 for the Micron
from petervanbogaet. My main goal is to eliminate a computer from this MIDI
chain because it would probably bottleneck.

--- In alesis-ion@yahoogroups.com, david littler <poppy_music@...> wrote:
>
> I dont know the behringer unit or the micron for that matter as I have an Ion
but petervanbogaet's says the bcr2000 will control your micron.
> If you have/can get more than 1 midi in port to your computer just plug the
Casio midi out to an midi in port on your PC and then you can use the Casio as a
master keyboard for any external midi source or your soft synths.
> I am assuming you have software such as Cubase/Logic/pro tools or whatever.
> David

That's a great idea! Thanks! Why didn't I think of that? It might have been
because it's such a pain to use that tracking generator...
Haven't tried your suggestion yet, but I'm pretty sure it will work.

Thanks also to Anu Kirk who also suggested using the tracking generator in a
personal e-mail.

I'll try it out later on and let you know the results...

Alain.


--- In alesis-ion@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <uralmoto2001@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the tip; works well. Exponential glide may be possible, but not
easy. The tracking generator has both portamento level and portamento effect as
tracking inputs. Choose one (not sure which) as input, then draw the desired
exponential curve on the Tracking Generator screen. Then in mod matrix: Tracking
Generator->Portamento Rate, level +100, offset as necessary. I haven't tried
this, so I don't know how well it will work. The tracking generator is the only
parameter on the Ion that makes me want an editing program... -Steve
>
> --- In alesis-ion@yahoogroups.com, "Alain" <hubertalain@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello everyone. I'm still enjoying my Ion very much. As you might have
noticed though when you switch the portamento (glide) effect on, it works for
the pitch of the oscillators, but if you have set some level of keyboard
tracking for the filter cutoff frequency, the portamento does not control it.
Resulting in an abrupt cutoff frequency change instead of following the
oscillators pitch smoothly.
> >
> > Solution: go into the matrix, add a new mod and choose "portamento effect"
as source and "filter 1 freq" as destination with a 100% level.
> >
> > That way, the cutoff frequency will glide in tandem with the oscillators
pitch at the speed you choose in the portamento time setting. Great for
inspired, expressive leads.
> >
> > Now, I just wish the engineers would have allowed for different glide
slopes. The only one available is unfortunately linear. Would have been nice to
emulate the exponential glides of some Moog and Korg vintage machines...
> >
> > Alain.
> >
>

Thanks for the tip; works well. Exponential glide may be possible, but not easy.
The tracking generator has both portamento level and portamento effect as
tracking inputs. Choose one (not sure which) as input, then draw the desired
exponential curve on the Tracking Generator screen. Then in mod matrix: Tracking
Generator->Portamento Rate, level +100, offset as necessary. I haven't tried
this, so I don't know how well it will work. The tracking generator is the only
parameter on the Ion that makes me want an editing program... -Steve

--- In alesis-ion@yahoogroups.com, "Alain" <hubertalain@...> wrote:
>
> Hello everyone. I'm still enjoying my Ion very much. As you might have noticed
though when you switch the portamento (glide) effect on, it works for the pitch
of the oscillators, but if you have set some level of keyboard tracking for the
filter cutoff frequency, the portamento does not control it. Resulting in an
abrupt cutoff frequency change instead of following the oscillators pitch
smoothly.
>
> Solution: go into the matrix, add a new mod and choose "portamento effect" as
source and "filter 1 freq" as destination with a 100% level.
>
> That way, the cutoff frequency will glide in tandem with the oscillators pitch
at the speed you choose in the portamento time setting. Great for inspired,
expressive leads.
>
> Now, I just wish the engineers would have allowed for different glide slopes.
The only one available is unfortunately linear. Would have been nice to emulate
the exponential glides of some Moog and Korg vintage machines...
>
> Alain.
>

Thanks Fran! Very useful info. I'll call Alesis tomorrow and see if they still
have the part. I'll probably have a tech do the soldering though. I'd hate to
screw up my precious Micron.

--- In alesis-ion@yahoogroups.com, "narfman96" <narfman96@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Reg,
>
> I had to replace my Z controller pot. Alesis had it for $3.00 US. Then I had
to very carefully remove the old one by desoldering it from the board and solder
in the new one. Works great now. Alesis will also sell the whole board that has
all three pots mounted on it. I'm not sure their price on that one though.....
If you find out please let us know.
>
> Fran
> --- In alesis-ion@yahoogroups.com, "curvetheory" <reggie@> wrote:
> >
> > Anyone had this happen??
> >
>

Thanks! I'll give it a shot.

--- In alesis-ion@yahoogroups.com, "Dr.Keyboard" <perrybobs@...> wrote:
>
> Hey Reggie: That is the down fall of this great world we live in these X Y Z
controls are pots you can find in any electronics store . Very in expensive. Of
course if it's in warranty don't mess with it. I'm in Electronics at work (Day
Job) Musician Pro part time.I had a TV tech I work with solder my control edit
switch in. He's been soldering for years and we took apart my micron in 15min
had it soldered in place.
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: curvetheory <reggie@...>
> To: alesis-ion@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sat, December 12, 2009 1:08:32 PM
> Subject: [ion-micron] Micron X knob is malfunctioning, mosly not registerign
at all.
>
>
> Has any one experienced this. Is there a solution besides sending it to
Alesis? Thanks.
>
> Reggie
>

Hello everyone. I'm still enjoying my Ion very much. As you might have noticed
though when you switch the portamento (glide) effect on, it works for the pitch
of the oscillators, but if you have set some level of keyboard tracking for the
filter cutoff frequency, the portamento does not control it. Resulting in an
abrupt cutoff frequency change instead of following the oscillators pitch
smoothly.

Solution: go into the matrix, add a new mod and choose "portamento effect" as
source and "filter 1 freq" as destination with a 100% level.

That way, the cutoff frequency will glide in tandem with the oscillators pitch
at the speed you choose in the portamento time setting. Great for inspired,
expressive leads.

Now, I just wish the engineers would have allowed for different glide slopes.
The only one available is unfortunately linear. Would have been nice to emulate
the exponential glides of some Moog and Korg vintage machines...

Alain.

I control my Micron with the BCR2000, USB out to Cubase. This works
perfect. If you setup the BCR2000 to work via midi out, you can directly
control the Alesis without Cubase.
No 2 knobs for 1 parameter ;-)

--- In alesis-ion@yahoogroups.com, "WyleL" <whizkid51594@...> wrote:
>
> 1. I just got a Micron the other day, and I'm wondering if it is
possible to directly connect the Behringer BCR2000 to the Micron.
Everything I've read about this specific question said that you need to
route it through PureData and/or a program like Micronizer or midiCTRL.
I read a post about having to assign 2 knobs to each parameter for
negative numbers and/or the high resolution parameters (NRPN values),
but the poster didn't say whether he/she was controlling the Micron
directly. I just want to clear this up.
>
> 2. Regardless of whether you can control the Micron directly or not, I
want to know if this setup with MIDI would work. Since the Micron is
limited in octaves, I plan to control my Micron with a 76-key Casio
keyboard which has MIDI In and Out jacks (no MIDI thru) while having my
micron plugged in to the BCR2000 which will be plugged in to my
computer. I'm going to assume I would have to put the Casio at the end
of the chain because it has no MIDI thru, but I don't know much about
how MIDI works. My ideal setup would be this: BCR2000 plugged into my
computer with USB, working as a MIDI to USB interface, while also
controlling my micron (or the other plan is to have the computer control
the micron while the BCR controls the computer), and have the Casio
keyboard control the micron but do nothing else.
>
> I hope this isn't as confusing to people who know a lot about MIDI as
it is to me.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>

1. I just got a Micron the other day, and I'm wondering if it is possible to
directly connect the Behringer BCR2000 to the Micron. Everything I've read about
this specific question said that you need to route it through PureData and/or a
program like Micronizer or midiCTRL. I read a post about having to assign 2
knobs to each parameter for negative numbers and/or the high resolution
parameters (NRPN values), but the poster didn't say whether he/she was
controlling the Micron directly. I just want to clear this up.

2. Regardless of whether you can control the Micron directly or not, I want to
know if this setup with MIDI would work. Since the Micron is limited in octaves,
I plan to control my Micron with a 76-key Casio keyboard which has MIDI In and
Out jacks (no MIDI thru) while having my micron plugged in to the BCR2000 which
will be plugged in to my computer. I'm going to assume I would have to put the
Casio at the end of the chain because it has no MIDI thru, but I don't know much
about how MIDI works. My ideal setup would be this: BCR2000 plugged into my
computer with USB, working as a MIDI to USB interface, while also controlling my
micron (or the other plan is to have the computer control the micron while the
BCR controls the computer), and have the Casio keyboard control the micron but
do nothing else.

I hope this isn't as confusing to people who know a lot about MIDI as it is to
me.

Thanks in advance!

Hi Reg,

I had to replace my Z controller pot. Alesis had it for $3.00 US. Then I had to
very carefully remove the old one by desoldering it from the board and solder in
the new one. Works great now. Alesis will also sell the whole board that has all
three pots mounted on it. I'm not sure their price on that one though..... If
you find out please let us know.

Fran
--- In alesis-ion@yahoogroups.com, "curvetheory" <reggie@...> wrote:
>
> Anyone had this happen??
>

Also try "C64 mod+lead" and "C64mod+" in SUD2006 folder. In my synth FX sub
folder is "Lo-Fi Walking"(sort of video game-like).In my copies of an1x patches
sub folder is "Invade 2"(also video game-like). -Steve

--- In alesis-ion@yahoogroups.com, "Elise BUISSON" <eli.buisson@...> wrote:
>
> Hi there !
>
> Look In my folder called "ohmz", you will find some stuff ( sysex files)
concerning 8 bit music.
> Gameboy sound is based on basic wave : A single square, pulse wave for lead, a
sinus for the bass and noise and pcm for the beat.
> I'm sure it is possible to create perfect 8 bit sound with the micron. maybe
the problem it's to make a sound "dirty" like in a 4 bit processor as in the
nintendo.
> If you have any patch to share with me, you are welcome.
> Concerning myself, I prefer commodore 64 soundchip, the famous SID. I will be
great one day someone try to reproduce classic tone of this gigantic chip ever.
>
> Yours.
>
> See and listen to :
>
> www.lsdj.com
> www.micromusic.net
> www.8bitpeoples.com
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: blackbirdfx
>   To: alesis-ion@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 2:09 PM
>   Subject: [ion-micron] Micron 8 Bit Sounds??????
>
>
>
>   Has anybody had any luck making 8 bit sounds on the micron? I've have got
very close but it's just not exactly what I'm looking for. I'm trying to get
real 8 bit nintendo-ish stuff. I would really appreciate any help, tips, or info
on making the program. Thanks!
>

Anyone had this happen??

----- Original Message -----

From: blackbirdfx

To: alesis-ion@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 2:09 PM

Subject: [ion-micron] Micron 8 Bit Sounds??????

 

Has anybody had any luck making 8 bit sounds on the micron? I've have got very close but it's just not exactly what I'm looking for. I'm trying to get real 8 bit nintendo-ish stuff. I would really appreciate any help, tips, or info on making the program. Thanks!

Hi, I have a BCF2000, and plan on getting a BCR2000 soon. I've downloaded a spreadsheet which has a list of Micron NRPN numbers for all the different parameters (filter type, OSC1 detune, ENV attack time, etc).  I'm excitedly making progress where I can assign most NRPN parameters to the BCF controls:

move a fader ==> open up the filter frequency
spin a dial ==> increase ENV attack time.

My biggest hurdle so far is figuring out how to program the BCF buttons to activate Micron parameters.

press a button ==> nothing!

For example, I can successfully program a BCF dial to select the different OSC wavetypes: sine ==> tri/saw ==> pulse.  Spinning the dial goes thru the values 0 (sine), 1 (saw), and 2 (pulse), and you can see in the Micron display and hear that the Micron responds by changing the wavetype.

But nothing happens if I try to program BCF buttons to go thru the same values (0, 1, 2).  The BCF display shows that the values change, but the Micron doesn't respond in its display.  It works when you use BCF dials or faders, but not using BCF buttons.  Why not? 

(I think it has something to do with the NRPN high resolution mode of the BCF.  Using Abs 14 or one of the Relative 14 bit for the "continuous" controller seems to be the only mode where the BCF can talk to the Micron.  If you select just ABS, for example, the Micron doesn't respond.  I guess since the BCF buttons in EDIT mode don't allow a choice between normal 7bit versus the high resolution 14bit, this is why the Micron doesn't respond to BCF button presses...)

In other words, is there a way to get the Behringer BCF to send 14bit high resolution control messages via its buttons?  An OS update perhaps?  I guess I answered all my own questions, eh?

Thanks for any info,
Andrew

hey, ive had my micron for a few days now and im slowly learning the ins and
outs. im a big fan of ping pong delays and was just wondering if there's an easy
way to create them on the micron? i was thinking assigning polar lfo's to both
left and right side on the L/R split delay, but it doesnt look like i can in the
mod routing.

any help would be much appreciated.

Has anybody had any luck making 8 bit sounds on the micron? I've have got very
close but it's just not exactly what I'm looking for. I'm trying to get real 8
bit nintendo-ish stuff. I would really appreciate any help, tips, or info on
making the program. Thanks!

So far everything on this page, except for a couple field recordings of public
spaces, is done with the micron.  I've been all about this synth lately.  Anyway
maybe some of you will find something interesting:

http://11hzrobot.bandcamp.com/

In case any of you Reason users don't have time to procrastinate as much as me,
you will now find a Micron Combinator backdrop (JPEG) for use in your Combinator
patches in the photos section of this group.

I was thinking of sampling some of my micron sounds for use in Reason and this
would make a great fascia! Just need to get round to sampling...

Grant

Thanks' for the info guys.

Those New York cases look good, but I'm in the UK:-(

I did look at the Gator GK-249, but the internal dimensions looked as though the
depth would be half an inch to small. I guess the Ion squeezes in.

I think I'll order one of those.

Thanks again,
Derek.



--- In alesis-ion@yahoogroups.com, "Gord" <gord.newman@...> wrote:
>
>
> I use this:
>
http://www.gatorcases.com/Default.aspx?Section=Products&Page=Details&CategoryID=\
4434&CatalogID=11138   It fits perfectly, although it doesn't leave enough room
for cables.  You won't need the straps to hold it in, i just sit the Ion on top
of
> them.
>
> Gord
>
> Quoting dee_saxman :
>
> Hi there,
>
> The case I was using for my ion is now used for my Fusion 6HD and I
> need to buy a new one for the ion.
>
> Can anybody recommend a make and model that fits the ion well? Not too
> big, but big enough for a couple of leads and the power cable.
>
> Do any of you use a guitar case?
>
> Thanks
> Derek.
>