I know several of you participate in local/regional ALT.NET meetings.
Set aside some time at those meetings to discuss (timebox it, maybe 15m?) what's wrong with our profession (i.e. why does ALT.NET exist in the first place and why are this list and the gatherings so popular?) and come up with at least 3 bullet-point reasons.
Next, set aside some more time (maybe 30m) to come up with a list of 2 strategic things (large, major, expensive/involved) and 2 tactical things (small, quick) that can be done to help correct this situation.
Finally, vote/appoint a representative individual or a pair of individuals (no more than 2) from your group(s) to represent your findings to the other groups.
The representatives will post their results to a thread here on this list or perhaps we'll set up another list for this purpose to avoid spamming this list. If so, we'll keep it open so others can observe.
We'll all compile duplicates/similar topics and come up with a strategic list and a tactical list.
Let's start with that. I have some ideas on what to do with the "official" list once it's compiled, but I'll hold off on that for now. Let's get this accomplished and move from there.
Seeing as how there's an ALT.NET meeting soon in Seattle, maybe the timeframe for this should be a few weeks AFTER ALT.NET Seattle.
For local/regional groups, please try to assemble before then.
On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 2:54 AM, Heinrich Breedt <heinrichbreedt@...> wrote:
Me too.
How can I help?
On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Glenn Block <glenn.block@...> wrote:
I echo Cory's sentiment.
How can i help.
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 7:41 PM, Cory Foy <usergroup@...> wrote:
Hi Chad,
Chad Myers wrote:
> Apologies, Casey. But it was, unfortunately, exactly the type of response I
> both hoped wouldn't happen and yet predicted. More questions, more debate,
> more everything except movement. I'm not singling out Casey here, there were
> a dozen after him.
I guess I'm confused why you would have expected a different response. I
liked the plan, and know from past efforts that if everyone spawns off,
then it becomes a blob. Or, for someone like me who doesn't know you
well, if I spun up and said, "Great idea! I love the documentation idea!
Let's run with it. I'll set up a website, and spin off a group" then
maybe that goes against what your vision was.
You proposed a vision to the group, and really didn't give much else
other than, "Here's a vision". I think had the very end said, "And if
you are interested in building this plan, then contact me" or "Form
groups and start making this happen" then the response would have been
different.
> All very good questions that need answered ... in due time. If we had it
> all figured out before we started, we wouldn't need to start.
The fact that you are using "we" here signifies that someone (perhaps
not you, but you were the one proposing it) is an "owner" or otherwise
contributing member, and thus has the context necessary to answer better
questions.
In my opinion, the post came across as a proposal needing discussion
more than a call to action. But regardless, (and since I wasn't strong
enough in my initial reply):
HEY! I think it's a great idea! Well, at least the documentation and
samples part. Some of the other ideals are dung (there, someone rejected
part of it ;)). Documentation and samples are a vital way to reach
people in the community, and I think we could have a significant impact.
How can I help?
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