I had never heard of lean development before the recent altnet marathon post. I was quite shocked to hear people talking about car manufacturers. I have done...
Read: http://stevesmithblog.com/blog/delaying-decisions/ as one (personal) example of how Lean principles can (easily) be applied to software development. Also...
It's amusing. But the author seems to believe that Lean is some sort of analogy to manufacturing. Actually, even though it comes from manufacturing, its ideas...
... Is it because software development is not car manufacturing? The principles of lean are broadly applicable. They have been applied to other industries....
I think it's high time that some other industries borrowed from us for a change - the aircraft industry could at least try test first development - i.e. they...
I'm glad somebody found my post<posthttp://the-software-simpleton.blogspot.com/2009/01/lean-mean-consulting-machine.html>funny (apart from me). Thanks Marcus ...
... I realize this is a joke, but actually, if you read the 2nd Poppendiecks book, the development of the Boeing 777 is one of the examples that is used of a...
... Yes, the Poppendiecks tried to steal the idea of crash-first development (CFD) from me. A last minute court injunction stayed production of that chapter....
On the Japanese thing, we use the terms because they are a part of the vernacular of the domain. Is it so different than talking in terms of design pattern...
... Agile added some new ideas, but it's really only an evolution of iterative methodologies, which were first documented by Barry Boehm in his *1981* book...
... It depends on whether Derek's implementation in his organization and within the operational behaviors and demands of his organization are benefited from...
I guess I've been around too long. I learned about Lean as a kind of Agile, based on the Lean principles and without the Japanese words. I started to see them ...
... mailing lists. ... approach is ... Charlie, I've found that lean has filled in some gaps in agile that I hadn't really recognized previously until I...
Hello Scott, ... I agree that Lean brings a unique perspective to agile. But "agile" is a descriptive classification applied to a number of methodologies and...
... Though I think you and Scott are really agreeing. It is always worth looking beyond the well-known methodologies like XP and Scrum to others like Crystal...
Hi Ian, ... Yes, I think we basically agree - and I also agree with you. Limiting oneself to a single language or a single methodology are both choices to,...
... I remain on the fence about it. I think that agile and lean are close cousins, and that it makes reasonable sense when they are presented at the same...
... I should clarify that for all intents and purposes, I see agile for what the mainstream world mostly sees it as now colloquially: Scrum with an occasional...
... Accepting your characterization of agile as "Scrum with an occasional smattering of XP" at face value, how would you describe the fundamental differences...
... Lean recognizes several forms of waste. Countermeasures for these wastes shape most of lean principles and process. Those countermeasures are explicit...
Scott, Agile is not and cannot by definition be limited to XP and Scrum. Agile Software Development is defined by the agile manifesto, whatever your view of...
... The wild defines agile the way it wants to, regardless of what you and I know to be true. ... whatever your ... to make ... straw man. Don't hang this on...
Scott, My experience with how agile is viewed is definitely not Scrum + XP. In fact I'd never come across that view of the world until you bought it up. That ...
... In fact ... That ... experience ... experience ... Fair enough. I try to spend as much time as possible time with people who are new to it. In my...
Hi Scott, ... I'd extend that definition... In the wild, what we tend to see called agile is a pretense at Scrum with a few XP terms thrown in for good...
... I think there are some significantly different practices and ideas that are often shocking to mainstream agile. I think that a "versus" emerges from such...
Hi Scott, ... I took "versus" as an attempt to show a conflict - not merely a difference. If what you're saying is "Lean is different from other agile...
... Again, I'm speaking from a colloquial sense of agile, because I think that this is the one that matters in the field. Let's talk first about iterations,...