Agree totally ... a small quip here and there is fine ... flaming, trolling and abusive behaviour isn't. After all - the real message behind the first post was...
... One thing you could have done was to post the email on the OTHER list for everyone to see. That would keep the topic where it belonged. This is a different...
After all, it would be natural to have an altdotjava list if the need existed, and their discussion would mostly be more relevant to the java world, which on...
alt stands for alternative. alternative means choice, as in you have a choice to accept prescriptive guidance from microsoft (see: datasets) or build it up...
1. One option is to look at using Script#. This allows you to write C# debuggable code that is compiled to JavaScript. 2. Another option is the new volta...
Yeah, I could have said does "everyone agree with..." but I find that just leaves things without closure if no one answers... "Story", I think, is good because...
Yeah, it's a catch-22 with some dev teams. If they do the planning, research, and analysis with due diligence (not "properly" because there's no "right" way...
Crap, I guess I put TDD in twice, the other should have been DDD. Someone's changed it so any votes that were done previous are no lost; so if you feel it's...
Is Volta even at a point to recommend using it? The performance of the current bits certainly didn't seem production ready. When I played around with it. ...
So how about alt.dev? Jeff. _____ From: altdotnet@yahoogroups.com [mailto:altdotnet@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David Laribee Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008...
Jeff, Read a couple messages in. The ".net" piece does matter. There's already healthy communities around DDD, Agile, XP, Scrum, Java, and Ruby. We're...
We have used JsUnit as well with IE 7 for all of our JS testing needs on our sites. I will agree though that we have yet to come up with an elegant solution...
(Note: I started responding to Jeremy/Jeff and it got kind of big / wanted to say something anyway, so here goes) A few thoughts about where we're taking this...
I agree that you could make a group which is wider scoped to include things like Ruby (which I love), but it would lose the focus of the group. Then what...
I don't want to believe the solution to unit testing Javascript boils down to not using javascript to write your client code. I barely used JSUnit but I'd hope...
Sergio, In some ways, Javascript is easier to unit test than C# or any other static typed language. The feedback cycle is faster too. Jeremy D. Miller The...
IMHO, lack of divisiveness (in the non-rhetorical bullshit sense) is one of our main problems. movements are divisive. had we come up with a clearer definition...
movements that are divisive primarily are rarely the most successful. imho, it's progressive movements that are successful. this is entirely subjective, but it...
It's the .Net community, and strengthening the .Net community at large, that I'm worried about here. Yeah, we should definitely be a part of other communities...
not sure we're operating on the same definition of divisive; _we are_ attempting to create disunity. absolutely. otherwise this simply is not a movement, it's...
right, all opinions are divisive, but that is reductio ad absurdum. To be divisive is to be marginal. To be progressive is to be on the side of progress. (and...
I think you hit the nail on the head Jeremy when you mentioned: ""Pragmatic" is a bit dangerous too. The guys doing DataSet/DataAdapter designs think that...
I agree, "pragmatism" really supports any incorrect way of doing something, when it works. "It works doesn't it" is pragmatic... ... large, that I'm worried...
There's also the issue of "just trying to be like the Pragmatic Programmers," which of course, is a very laudable goal. Jeremy D. Miller The Shade Tree...
I admire that there's desire to improve development in the .NET space. I'm willing to accept that's the space the majority of the people who are gathering...
... show you ... to ... I don't know that it is just that people don't give a damn. I think it is also that people need to have a reason to believe you. Even...
Yes, it's unfortunate that pragmatic and Pragmatic are easily confused. Not to mention, there needs (I think) to be a clear separation from the Pragmatic...
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