For me (and others I know have mentioned it) its about how we code, not what
features tool x has over tool y. R# is more fluid and helps me keep my momentum
when doing TDD.

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From: "Jay R. Wren" <jrwren@...>

Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 09:16:27
To:altnetconf@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [altnetconf] ReSharper 4 | Was: VS 2008 RTM soon... how soon will
you use it?


Ouch. At least the CodeRush switch would be your personal pain.

I, on the other hand, have been using CodeRush in Orcas Beta2 for over
a month. I can use the lambda to anonymous delegate refactoring and
then use the anonymous delegate to method refactoring. Its support is
very nice.

I'm glad we have a choice of tools here, even if we don't have the
same choice in IDE's. SharpDevelop is great, but it is not Visual
Studio+CodeRush. I think if I had Visual Studio without CodeRush, I'd
probably choose SD instead.

I'm also glad to be on the better side of the choice in this case.
Have fun waiting for C# 3 support. I've already got it ;p

But what I don't understand is all of the R# fans dislike of CodeRush.
I acknowledge that both are great and that I simply prefer
CR+Refactor. I'm aware of the very nice TDD things which R# gives, but
other than that CR seems to have feature parity. Why the extreme R#
love? Am I missing something big or is it a matter of personal
preference as I believe now.
--
j

On Nov 6, 2007 11:00 PM, Bil Simser <emailme@bilsimser.
<mailto:emailme%40bilsimser.com> com> wrote:
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> I don't want this to turn into R# marketing thread from hell, but seriously
> 3.0 support until Q1 or Q2 (as mentioned in another thread, can't tell since
> Outlook blow) when we'll be able to use RTM VS2008 in 3 weeks? That's going
> to be a little painful (not as painful as switching to DevExpress though).
> Just a request to somehow get 3.0 support in 3.x but that may be impossible
> as it's pretty late in the game, but maybe others feel this way too. I'll
> have to wait maybe 4-6 months until squiggly lines go away in my extension
> methods and lambda expressions. Like I said, even a hotfix just for syntax
> checking would be nice. Pretty please?
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> From: altnetconf@yahoogro <mailto:altnetconf%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com
[mailto:altnetconf@yahoogro <mailto:altnetconf%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com] On
> Behalf Of Ben Scheirman
> Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 8:36 PM
> To: altnetconf@yahoogro <mailto:altnetconf%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com
> Subject: Re: [altnetconf] ReSharper 4 | Was: VS 2008 RTM soon... how soon
> will you use it?
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> He said expect R# 4.0 (which works with C# 3.0) in the near future. The
> next major version (I'm assuming 5) will be released in 2009.
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> This is inline with MSFT's release cycle.
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> On Nov 6, 2007 8:59 PM, nima dilmaghani <nimadi@gmail.
<mailto:nimadi%40gmail.com> com> wrote:
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> By 2009 Microsoft will probably be releasing the next version of VS and
> .NET. With a schedule like this, JetBrains will fall behind the technology
> folks will be using rather quickly.
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> On 11/6/07, Michael Schall <mike.schall@ <mailto:mike.schall%40gmail.com>
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> On Nov 6, 2007 4:48 PM, Ilya Ryzhenkov < orangy@jetbrains.
<mailto:orangy%40jetbrains.com> com> wrote:
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> Well, I'm not here to discuss sales, marketing and other non-development
> strategies of JetBrains, okay?
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> Brief project plans, though:
> ReSharper 3.1 (currently 3.0.3 EAP) should be released by the end of
> November. No C# 3.0 support in it. We may have few bugfix updates, but
> that's all for 3.x branch.
> ReSharper 4.x is something to plan for the near future. Sometime in 2009 we
> may have next major version, or may have none, or may have earlier. There
> are no plans in stone about it yet. You know, agile world :)
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> Actually, there are plenty of opportunities to get ReSharper for free. Any
> version. I was granted license myself for free, back in 2005, when I was
> not
> working in ReSharper team. Just because I provided a lot of feedback. All
> you need to do is actively participate in our EAP, suggest features, point
> out bugs. It is that simple. Well, sometimes you may need to ping us and
> say
> "Hey guys, I've submitted great amount of bugs, my username is blahblah,
> shouldn't I receive free version/upgrade?" :)
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> It could have been as simple as submitting the video of your real work. Did
> you see that: http://blogs.
<http://blogs.jetbrains.com/dotnet/2007/07/video-contest/>
jetbrains.com/dotnet/2007/07/video-contest/ ? Do
> you know there were NO videos submitted? Zero. Nothing we can look at and
> see how people create and change their code. Any person submitted his/her
> video would be qualified as winner.... We have to watch Hibernating Rhinos
> (one person, one style) again and again, and occasional videos spawned here
> and there on the web, like Evan's TDD we spotted by chance.
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> Btw, the video upload form should still work ;)
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> Ilya Ryzhenkov
> .NET Tools Product Manager
> JetBrains, Inc
> http://www.jetbrain <http://www.jetbrains.com> s.com < http://www.jetbrain
<http://www.jetbrains.com/> s.com/>
> "Develop with pleasure!"
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> From: altnetconf@yahoogro <mailto:altnetconf%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com
[mailto: altnetconf@yahoogro <mailto:altnetconf%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com]
> On Behalf Of Brad Wilson
> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 12:45 AM
> To: altnetconf@yahoogro <mailto:altnetconf%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com
> Subject: Re: [altnetconf] VS 2008 RTM soon... how soon will you use
> it?
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> Yeah, no kidding. We owned 2.x about 9 months before having for fork
> out for 3.x, and now there's already a 4.x on the horizon when we're only
> on
> 3.0.2?
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> Consider me feeling ripped off already. :(
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> On Nov 6, 2007 12:01 PM, Chad Myers <chad@chadmyers.
<mailto:chad%40chadmyers.com> com
> <mailto:chad@chadmyers. <mailto:chad%40chadmyers.com> com> > wrote:
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> Great, a new ver. I just bought my 3.0 license ;(
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> Can you please spam the list when the 4.0 EAP is ready?
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