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#### American Antigravity -- Centrifugal Tech & BEC-Antigravity ####   Message List  
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Dear Group:

I've posted two new pages online at the AAG site -- one for the Vortex-
Thruster experimentation that I've been doing and a second for the Bose-
Einstein Condensate & Plasma experiments that Gravity Control Technologies in
Hungary has been working on.

VORTEX THRUSTER:
I know that I sound like a broken record to keep talking about the vortex-
thruster idea, but something about the idea of centrifugal fans has always
intrigued me. They don't really cut the air like a propeller -- they more or
less throw it out of the way like a blender, and this bulk-form of moving air
has some aesthetic as well as functional appeal.

I've been pricing micro-turbine engines online lately -- fun to play with, and
an obvious possibility for generating the high-voltages for Lifters and *LOTS*
of other little toys that I could build. If you've ever looked these up,
you'll soon realize that they're well out of the price range of mere-mortals --
starting about about $1500 and rapidly moving into the $3000 range for even a
model aircraft system! Looks like I'll have to win the lottery before I take
up microturbines as a hobby ...

In comparison, centrifugal fans are cheap -- dirt cheap, in fact. In case
you're not sure what a centrifugal fan is, they're what drives your vacuum-
cleaner, leaf-blower, air-conditioner, and a hundred other types of air-moving
equipment. They're used in industry because they're easy to design,
inexpensive, and they get a lot of bang for the buck in terms of power.

The idea behind the Vortex-Thruster is that centrifugal fans can be used to
create an artificial tornado in a vehicle application. This was the work of
Mikhail Goldshtik, a Russian immigrant-scientist to the United States started
the University of Houston's Vortex-Thruster project in the 1990's. His ideas
were based on work with rotating fluid-flow systems conducted in Russia that
he brought with him to the states, and he was the central figure behind the
University of Houston's Vortex-Thruster project.

Unofortunately, it appears that Goldshtik passed away from age-related illness
in 1997, and the University has since taken the Vortex-technologies site
offline. Through the miracle of "The Wayback Machine", I've been able to dig
up the site's 2000-year archived copy for reference material, and cite it on
the American Antigravity Vortex Thruster page.

What makes the Vortex-Thruster so interesting to me is:

1. Unlike jet-engines, the vortex-technology functions better at low-speeds
and altitudes, much like a helicopter. However, since it doesn't have a rotor,
its much better suited to city use, in a point-to-point transportation role.

2. The Vortex-Thruster is much more efficient than helicopter and aircraft
technology. Goldshtik estimated that a 1-meter vortex-assembly could lift up
to 4-tons of weight, and could be up to 20-times more efficient than a jet-
turbine.

3. The direction of thrust in the vortex-thruster is the same as the direction
of airflow. That is, the air flows in a reverse manner throughout the system
(from the vehicle's side or bottom up to beneath the rotor) and is then pushed
out over an airfoil through centrifugal acceleration.

In my own experimentation, I've already seen the point that Goldshtik was
making -- I've built and have been experimenting with an electric version of
his idea, and the air does indeed create thrust despite flowing backwards
through the system. This is the result of a vortex-cone being formed in the
air during operation -- I believe that with a bit more work I can greatly
capitalize on this to get better results.

Here's the URL:
http://www.americanantigravity.com/vortexthruster.html

GRAVITY CONTROL TECHNOLOGIES:

Robert Chambers from BAE told me that this Hungarian startup is connected with
the Firmage ISSO company, so I took the opportunity to check out their site
and ended up creating a page for them on mine.

GCT is working with ultra low-temperature atomic clouds, Bose-Einstein
Condensates, and mercury-plasma vapor chambers to try and create a spin-effect
on the atomic level to parallel the work that Podkletnov has done with
superconductors. If successful, their results should be more profound than
Podkletnov's were in that they hope to heft several grams of weight
immediately, and then rapidly move up to larger payloads.

While the idea of Antigravity in a refrigerator doesn't immediately sound
appealing, it is of interest to note that their approach has intuitive
connections to a variety of concepts that have been available for some time,
such as:

Plasma Antigravity: The idea of using mercury vapor plasmas to conduct
electrical current is one that has been kicking around the UFO community for
quite some time. One of the prototypes that's been discussed is supposed to
use a high-temperature mercury-plasma to conduct an enormous current in a
circular fashion, which then creates an Antigravity effect.

It's interesting to note that the plasma vapor UFO is supposed to be a "human-
built" device -- the rumor mill has it that if ET exists they're using
something more advanced than this... perhaps the fabled Element 115
(Unobtainium) :o)

Bose-Einstein Condensates: Victor sent me a minor correction for some of the
text on the page that while BEC's play a role in the GCT system they aren't
necessarily the only element. The possibility of BEC's playing a role in
Antigravity is an interesting idea -- these are apparently the new "5th state"
of matter. In a BEC, a cloud of atoms is refrigerated to the point where they
basically lose all of their molecular energy.

Apparently, since everything in nature has at least a tiny little bit of
atomic vibration on a normal basis, BEC's break the rule enough that they take
on some interesting properties, such as the entire cloud of atoms behaving as
if it was one single really-big atom.

I'm not well-versed in the physics behind BEC's, so other than somebody
telling me that 3-dimensional objects are supposed to exist in 4-d space I
don't want to get in over my head on that subject without more research. The
explanation that I heard was that with so little energy available, it would
appear that BEC's don't exist in exactly the same dimensions that normal space
does, which is one reason why their properties are so strange. Another
explanation is that the electron orbits get "smeared" all over in-between
different atoms, which makes the behave as a connected entity in a new manner.

Anyhow, GCT has a real understanding of BEC physics, which means that if you
want to learn about how they BEC's really behave you should check out my page
and then visit their site online, instead of just reading the technical
goobleygoop that I've been babbling on about.

Rotating Magnetic Fields: Victor's indicated that based on the GCT work,
rotating magnetic fields are the way to go for large-scale Antigravity
effects. Instead of simply using a rotating coil apparatus like the Marcus
device or Searle, GCT wants to capitalize on rotation and spin on an atomic
level -- making all of those tiny billiard-balls roll in the same direction to
create a net spin effect.

That's not to say that the Marcus device and other more conventional methods
of creating rotating magnetic fields don't work, its just that the physics
(despite being incredibly arcane) is much more defined for BEC's than for what
Marcus and others have been working with. Victors impression is that Marcus
results may be a "shadow effect" of the real potential of rotational magnetism
with relation to Antigravity.

The URL is:
http://www.americanantigravity.com/gctspace.com

Thanks again, and I will continue to research the vortex-technology on my own
for the time being to learn more about how it works. I've been cutting out
foam-airfoils and airflow-enhancers for the apparatus that I've constructed,
and I hope to have some good video for you in the near future.

For the time being, I've connected the output of a leaf-blower to a vacuum-
cleaner motor to try and pump air underneath the vacuum-impeller's blades, as
indicated on the UH Vortex-tech page. This is already providing initial
results, and I can see the beginnings of a defined vortex during operation,
but its still too early to capture meaningful data in video.

Sincerely;

Tim Ventura
http://www.americanantigravity.com

http://www.americanantigravity.com/vortexthruster.html
http://www.americanantigravity.com/gctspace.com



Sat May 3, 2003 10:14 pm

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