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Sheheke: "Our ship became stranded in a small lake on a mountain top
after a great flood" 200 years ago Lewis and Clarke and Sheheke,the
chief of the Mandan Indians are about to spend new years eve with
president Thomas Jefferson. They have just returned from the coast and
have brought with them the chief of a mysterious tribe of indians that
was one sixth white. Sheheke gives this answer when asked about where
his people had come from and tells them a fantastic story about a
flood cermony where they have an alter they call an ARC(ship) and it
had brought them to this world.
The Mandans came from the source of the Mississippi where the pines
met the oaks. So says Tracy Potter in his 2004 book. Now here is a big
mistake that he and most others might make. They think Itasca Park in
northern minnesota is this source but it is in west central minnesota
near Alexandria. During the times of the norse explorers and the
vikings, the water level was much higher and Itasca was underwater.
Also here in west central minnesota is the high ground(inspriration
peak,1800feet and Bear Knob,1600feet)and the oak forests meet the
pines and here too grow the wild grapes and here is the KRS.
This past summer a gravel quarry was dug into the side of Bear Knob
and here at about 1500 feet I found remains of a small beach where
here the waves of a great flood had reached the highest. After I
turned around I then realized I was standing looking out across what
had been a large inland shallow ocean and I was standing on an ancient
island or the mountain top the Mandans had become stranded on. There
is no other lands above 1500 feet in minnesota other than the notheast
corner of the state near lake superior. Itasca and the mississippi
would have been the deepest part of that inland sea.




Sat Dec 23, 2006 9:12 pm

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Sheheke: "Our ship became stranded in a small lake on a mountain top after a great flood" 200 years ago Lewis and Clarke and Sheheke,the chief of the Mandan...
hilgren
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Dec 23, 2006
9:13 pm

Hi hilgren, ... "The lord of life created the first man, Lone Man. As Lone Man went along, he met several animals, deciding that they must have been created...
Doug Weller
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Dec 23, 2006
10:35 pm

While the Mandans lived at Pipestone they were visited by Lone Man and First Creator. Catlin "for their tradition says,that at a very ancient period such a man...
hilgren
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Dec 24, 2006
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Hi hilgren, ... But the 'arc' wasn't mentioned by Sieur de la Verendrye, so that's irrelevant. It still looks as though you picked the one sixth out of the...
Doug Weller
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Dec 24, 2006
12:58 pm

Doug, I want to take you to task on three assertions that you have stated below, or at least clarify them. First that Pierre Gaultier de Varennes, sieur de La...
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Dec 24, 2006
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Hi roger_e_nelson, ... What assertions? I used words like 'could', 'might', etc. And I didn't use the word 'black', why not take that up with the person who...
Doug Weller
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Dec 24, 2006
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Hi Roger, LaVerendrye"" I dont believe he meant black but very dark red indians. "It is certainly possible ... No, I believe I have read that it would have...
hilgren
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Dec 25, 2006
12:23 am

Steve, you are reading too much into a lot of the appearance of the KRS's physical features. You need to read up on Scott Wolter's excellent geo-findings about...
Chris Patenaude
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Dec 26, 2006
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Hi Chris and thanks for the reply. So I met Margaret years ago and had her sign my copy of Crusade to Vinland too. I have also met and talked with Scott and...
hilgren
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Dec 26, 2006
8:12 pm

Hi Doug,,Merry Christmas and thanks for the challenges. I first read the diarys of Lewis and Clark on the net and when I read that "our ship had become...
hilgren
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Dec 24, 2006
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Hi Steve, ... Great. I'd like to concentrate on the Mandan. You mention in your reply to Roger 'a few thousand blond Indians'. I'd suggest that if there had...
Doug Weller
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Dec 25, 2006
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Hi Doug, Thanks for some great reading material. From the start I had been reading anything I could find on the mandans lookng for bits of proof that these...
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