Hello Herve,

On 03/12/2008, you wrote:

> If you like to see spam then yes but i think the day of Amiga will be
> like the days of BEOS long and forgoten have a nice day

   Amiga seems to have more lives than BeOS and other similar OS'es.
Not sure how many will remember once we first generation Amigans leave
the scene, but until then some will remember.  As southerners in the US
are reputed to say about our Civil War after the war was over - which
they called the War among the states - "Forget hell."

> On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 10:25 AM, Herve <herve.dpt@...> wrote:
>>
>> Dunno ;o)
>>
>>  Ben Stephenson a écrit :
>>
>>  > No email from this list in awhile. Is it still active?
>>  >
>>  > Cheers
>>  >
>>  > To unsubscribe, email: amigaone-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>>  >
>>  > Other information on the A1 is available at www.amigaworld.net
>>  > and
>> www.intuitionbase.com
>>  >
>>  > Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>  --
>>  Cordialement, Hervé.
>>  --------------------
>>  http://blasons.free.fr/
>>  AMIGA - ATO-FR - HERALDIQUE - CRYPTO
>>
Talk to you later.
--
Dr. Larry Keller
Levin College of Urban Affairs
Cleveland State University
lkeller@...

>   Amiga seems to have more lives than BeOS and other similar OS'es.
> Not sure how many will remember once we first generation Amigans
> leave
> the scene, but until then some will remember.

There's still activity for C64/128 users so maybe there's still hope
for Amiga.

> As southerners in the US
> are reputed to say about our Civil War after the war was over - which
> they called the War among the states - "Forget hell."

Wasn't that the "War Of Northern Aggression" too?

Jaeson

"In a world without walls, who needs Windows? In a
world without fences, who needs Gates?" --Chris Hodges


"It's not too surprising that these proletarian lefties and inveterate peaceniks
should attack Exxon, for (by my modest count there) war profiteering, racism,
overcrowded jails, civil liberties, human rights, HIV, hepatitis, mental
illness, combat fatalities, the Pentagon's budget, the need for prosthetics,
pollution, environmental illnesses, foreign adventurism and buying Congress
wholesale. But wait till it starts dawning on conservatives and rich people that
climate-change is Exxon's biggest product, and that climate disruption is
causing horrific economic damage to their own pocketbooks. Somebody somewhere is
gonna go down hard for that. There really isn't a better candidate for
scapegoating and deliberate public punishment than the people of Exxon. And
they're sure not gonna lack for finger pointing. They're all over the world, and
all over the world people hate them." -- Bruce Sterling


      
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   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Jaeson Koszarsky
   To: amigaone@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 6:24 PM
   Subject: Re: [amigaone] Re: Is this list still active?



   > Amiga seems to have more lives than BeOS and other similar OS'es.
   > Not sure how many will remember once we first generation Amigans
   > leave
   > the scene, but until then some will remember.

   There's still activity for C64/128 users so maybe there's still hope
   for Amiga.

   > As southerners in the US
   > are reputed to say about our Civil War after the war was over - which
   > they called the War among the states - "Forget hell."

   Wasn't that the "War Of Northern Aggression" too?

   Jaeson

   "In a world without walls, who needs Windows? In a
   world without fences, who needs Gates?" --Chris Hodges

   "It's not too surprising that these proletarian lefties and inveterate
peaceniks should attack Exxon, for (by my modest count there) war profiteering,
racism, overcrowded jails, civil liberties, human rights, HIV, hepatitis, mental
illness, combat fatalities, the Pentagon's budget, the need for prosthetics,
pollution, environmental illnesses, foreign adventurism and buying Congress
wholesale. But wait till it starts dawning on conservatives and rich people that
climate-change is Exxon's biggest product, and that climate disruption is
causing horrific economic damage to their own pocketbooks. Somebody somewhere is
gonna go down hard for that. There really isn't a better candidate for
scapegoating and deliberate public punishment than the people of Exxon. And
they're sure not gonna lack for finger pointing. They're all over the world, and
all over the world people hate them." -- Bruce Sterling

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> The Amiga is dead, time to give uip the ghost I think....

It's only dead when folks stop using it.

I use my DraCo more than my other Amiga systems these days.  It's
certainly not as quick with rendering as new computers but it still
delivers great image quality and has FireWire I/O.

My CSPPC died, was revived, and died again before OS4 was released for
it.  New hardware would be welcome.  But putting the AmigaOS on readily
available off-the-shelf hardware would be the best way to go these
days.  OR make it work on readily available PPC Macs, plenty of those
to go around.

Jaeson


      
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Hello Jaeson,

On 03/12/2008, you wrote:

>>   Amiga seems to have more lives than BeOS and other similar OS'es.
>> Not sure how many will remember once we first generation Amigans
>> leave
>> the scene, but until then some will remember.

> There's still activity for C64/128 users so maybe there's still hope
> for Amiga.

>> As southerners in the US
>> are reputed to say about our Civil War after the war was over -
>> which they called the War among the states - "Forget hell."

> Wasn't that the "War Of Northern Aggression" too?

   Too many southerners may still believe that.  Of course, the best
thing that happened to the south was the north migration.  I can't
imagine what the former-New York population of Miami is.  I guess the
aggression continues.

> Jaeson

> "In a world without walls, who needs Windows? In a
> world without fences, who needs Gates?" --Chris Hodges


> "It's not too surprising that these proletarian lefties and
> inveterate peaceniks should attack Exxon, for (by my modest count
> there) war profiteering, racism, overcrowded jails, civil liberties,
> human rights, HIV, hepatitis, mental illness, combat fatalities, the
> Pentagon's budget, the need for prosthetics, pollution, environmental
> illnesses, foreign adventurism and buying Congress wholesale. But
> wait till it starts dawning on conservatives and rich people that
> climate-change is Exxon's biggest product, and that climate
> disruption is causing horrific economic damage to their own
> pocketbooks. Somebody somewhere is gonna go down hard for that. There
> really isn't a better candidate for scapegoating and deliberate
> public punishment than the people of Exxon. And they're sure not
> gonna lack for finger pointing. They're all over the world, and all
> over the world people hate them." -- Bruce Sterling
>
Talk to you later.
--
Dr. Larry Keller
Levin College of Urban Affairs
Cleveland State University
lkeller@...

Hello Paul,

On 03/12/2008, you wrote:

> Ben,

>> No email from this list in awhile. Is it still active?

>> Cheers

> I can't really say. I set up the filters in Simple Mail so long ago,
> I'm not sure what mail goes into what folders anymore.

> But overall, there's been very little mail comiing in these days
>  into any of the Amiga folders I've set up.

   You have to be an attorney to get a steady flow of documents about
Amiga.:)
> --
> --
>  Paul Zager

>  Proud Owner of Frankenthousand, the monster A1000
>  '030@50MHz, 2 megs chip/32 megs fast, 2 hard drives, OS 3.9
>  4xSCSI CD-ROM, SyJet, 56kHayes, 19" flicker free display

>  "Bride of Frankenthousand" A4000 Gave her life for her young

>  The Young Frankenthousand AmigaOne G4-XE, ATI Radeon 9800,
>  Catweasel, 512 MB . . .   now running OS4
>
Talk to you later.
--
Dr. Larry Keller
Levin College of Urban Affairs
Cleveland State University
lkeller@...

Hello Remote12,

On 03/12/2008, you wrote:

> The Amiga is dead, time to give uip the ghost I think....

   As long as some ghosts continue to program for my AmigaOne, I will
stay connected.

   Seems we almost revived this list - a ghostly thought?

>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Jaeson Koszarsky
>   To: amigaone@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 6:24 PM
>   Subject: Re: [amigaone] Re: Is this list still active?



>   > Amiga seems to have more lives than BeOS and other similar OS'es.

>   > Not sure how many will remember once we first generation Amigans
>   > leave
>   > the scene, but until then some will remember.

>   There's still activity for C64/128 users so maybe there's still
> hope   for Amiga.

>   > As southerners in the US
>   > are reputed to say about our Civil War after the war was over -
> which   > they called the War among the states - "Forget hell."

>   Wasn't that the "War Of Northern Aggression" too?

>   Jaeson

>   "In a world without walls, who needs Windows? In a
>   world without fences, who needs Gates?" --Chris Hodges

>   "It's not too surprising that these proletarian lefties and
> inveterate peaceniks should attack Exxon, for (by my modest count
> there) war profiteering, racism, overcrowded jails, civil liberties,
> human rights, HIV, hepatitis, mental illness, combat fatalities, the
> Pentagon's budget, the need for prosthetics, pollution, environmental
> illnesses, foreign adventurism and buying Congress wholesale. But
> wait till it starts dawning on conservatives and rich people that
> climate-change is Exxon's biggest product, and that climate
> disruption is causing horrific economic damage to their own
> pocketbooks. Somebody somewhere is gonna go down hard for that. There
> really isn't a better candidate for scapegoating and deliberate
> public punishment than the people of Exxon. And they're sure not
> gonna lack for finger pointing. They're all over the world, and all
> over the world people hate them." -- Bruce Sterling
>   __________________________________________________________
>   Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page.
>   http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
>
Talk to you later.
--
Dr. Larry Keller
Levin College of Urban Affairs
Cleveland State University
lkeller@...

Hello Larry,

On 12/03/08, you wrote:

>> The Amiga is dead, time to give uip the ghost I think....
>
>   As long as some ghosts continue to program for my AmigaOne, I
>   will stay connected.
>
>   Seems we almost revived this list - a ghostly thought?

It seems a change is needed, a more inclusive name perhaps:
Amiga Hardware? I have not looked around on this matter. People
often bring hardware issues to the OS4 group, maybe because of the
activity.

Our A1s have been coasting along for some time now with our
version of OS4. Every now and again someone says "Help! my A1
won't boot." and another says "Replace your battery." and that's
about it. Admittedly I wonder about the capability of my graphics
card when I get a wmv video that trails chunks of the images all
over the place so it's a little hard to make out the images or
perhaps I need a G4 with altivec.

However, what I want to address is that the real concern is
with modern hardware to run OS4, or for some people modern harware
to run other amigarish software, MorphOS, being prominent.
We see people fiddling with an incomplete effort to run OS4 on
Mac minis or whatever they are called. No one is legally prepared
to say OS4 runs on SAM440s but I do not believe no one is
working at making new hardware available or adapting software to run
on what is available. There may be an avalanche of "new" developments
once the legal rows are resolved, if ever, but these themes have been
done to death in various forums.

On the classic side we have the minimig flavour of the month of
interest to those who love making something work and want to play all
those retro games again where the game is the thing, not realistic
graphics. After all we are well used to operating in symbols and some
never progressed beyond comics in reading anyway. I also wonder at
the commercial realism of these guys: http://www.natami.de/
but their existence makes my point that people are trying.

Noel

> However, what I want to address is that the real concern is
> with modern hardware to run OS4,

I'd be happy with ANY "readily available hardware" to run OS4.  It need
not be the latest 4GHz system.  I'd be happy with a CSPPC substitute or
picking up an old used G3/G4 mac.  Old macs seem like the least
expensive route.

Jaeson

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Hello Noel,

  Good to hear from you.  I will top post as I am going to do a short
answer - not just by my standards, which are often far from short, but
a general standard.

  We need a clear decision about rights to OS 4 period.  Then we can
see what develops.  Not clear where MorphOS is though the advertised
hardware has decent specs.  I think the OS team is ready to go to
another level but without resolution of the main legal claims all is
tentative.

  Not dead, but the patient needs attention; and the sooner the doctor
can get out of court and deal with the patient the better.

On 03/12/2008, you wrote:

> Hello Larry,

> On 12/03/08, you wrote:

>>> The Amiga is dead, time to give uip the ghost I think....
>>
>>   As long as some ghosts continue to program for my AmigaOne, I
>>   will stay connected.
>>
>>   Seems we almost revived this list - a ghostly thought?

> It seems a change is needed, a more inclusive name perhaps:
> Amiga Hardware? I have not looked around on this matter. People
> often bring hardware issues to the OS4 group, maybe because of the
> activity.

> Our A1s have been coasting along for some time now with our
> version of OS4. Every now and again someone says "Help! my A1
> won't boot." and another says "Replace your battery." and that's
> about it. Admittedly I wonder about the capability of my graphics
> card when I get a wmv video that trails chunks of the images all
> over the place so it's a little hard to make out the images or
> perhaps I need a G4 with altivec.

> However, what I want to address is that the real concern is
> with modern hardware to run OS4, or for some people modern harware
> to run other amigarish software, MorphOS, being prominent.
> We see people fiddling with an incomplete effort to run OS4 on
> Mac minis or whatever they are called. No one is legally prepared
> to say OS4 runs on SAM440s but I do not believe no one is
> working at making new hardware available or adapting software to run
> on what is available. There may be an avalanche of "new" developments
> once the legal rows are resolved, if ever, but these themes have been
> done to death in various forums.

> On the classic side we have the minimig flavour of the month of
> interest to those who love making something work and want to play all
> those retro games again where the game is the thing, not realistic
> graphics. After all we are well used to operating in symbols and some
> never progressed beyond comics in reading anyway. I also wonder at
> the commercial realism of these guys: http://www.natami.de/
> but their existence makes my point that people are trying.

> Noel
> 
Talk to you later.
--
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Levin College of Urban Affairs
Cleveland State University
lkeller@...

Hello Remote12

On 12/03/2008, Remote12 wrote:
> The Amiga is dead, time to give uip the ghost I think....

I sometimes wonder why people bother to read mailing lists about things they
obviously have no interest in ?


My Amiga One is used daily and is still my main computer, the Mac is only
used as a spare. I don't even have a PC and would never give one desk
space, I see far too much of Windows at work to even consider using it for
"pleasure".

The Amiga is far from dead and still has active development - see
http://www.digitaluniverse.org.uk  [blatant plug !]




Regards,

Bill.
--

Hi Bill

Obviously there is interest, otherwise people wouldnt read the posts and
respond.

At least being controversial has gained some response from people ;-)

Have you seen the latest debacle between Hypersion and Amiga INC (or whoever
they are now)?
This bodes badly for the future of OS4 either way.

I was rather more interested in a future for the Amiga than retro gear of which
there seems to be
some developments.

If there has been any further news on Amiga hardware development or anything
else that I might have
missed can someone give an update.

Regards

C


   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Bill Eaves
   To: amigaone@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 9:45 AM
   Subject: [amigaone] Re: Is this list still active?


   Hello Remote12

   On 12/03/2008, Remote12 wrote:
   > The Amiga is dead, time to give uip the ghost I think....

   I sometimes wonder why people bother to read mailing lists about things they
   obviously have no interest in ?

   My Amiga One is used daily and is still my main computer, the Mac is only
   used as a spare. I don't even have a PC and would never give one desk
   space, I see far too much of Windows at work to even consider using it for
   "pleasure".

   The Amiga is far from dead and still has active development - see
   http://www.digitaluniverse.org.uk [blatant plug !]

   Regards,

   Bill.
   --






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Hello Remote12

On 13/03/2008, Remote12 wrote:

> At least being controversial has gained some response from people ;-)

:o)



> Have you seen the latest debacle between Hypersion and Amiga INC (or
> whoever they are now)?

Who hasn't :-(

I just wish Amiga Inc would get out of the picture and let those that were
actually doing something get on with it.

> I was rather more interested in a future for the Amiga than retro gear
> of which there seems to be some developments.

Likewise.

> If there has been any further news on Amiga hardware development or
> anything else that I might have missed can someone give an update.

I guess we are all disappointed at the lack of progress. By now I would have
been expecting to have updated my Amiga One or at least drooling over the
bigger/better/faster machines I could not afford. The hardware that does
exist now seems if anything to be slower than my A1 which is a bit of a
downer even if Amiga Inc did get off their high horse and grant some
licenses for OS4 to be used on it.

Even though Amiga Inc are a bunch of voucher selling scammers the Amiga
itself is far from dead as long as there are Amiga Ones out there and
people using them.

Even classic users can now join in with their PPC cards though the whole
point of the A1 and OS4 was really to get away from the classic hardware
and all its add-ons.

The Amiga seems always to be a waiting game but once bitten using Linux, or
a Mac is just not the same. As for Windows I regard those as occupational
hazards that I would rather not use at home ;-)


Regards,

Bill.
--

Need a/some new homes for the Amiga software I have had sitting for
quite some time. Is there anyone out there that could/would put it to
use with their Amiga. I'm sure most if not all of it was prior to OS4,
if that is any kind of hint as to compatibility. Pretty wide range of
SW from games to utilities to shareware (with keys). Lemme know. Can
be had for mailing costs. I am located in Texas. If interested, email
me at jonbp@...

Greetings  "Remote12" <remote12@...>
On 13/03/2008 at 09:49 you wrote concerning
Re: [amigaone] Re: Is this list still active?

Hi Remote,

R> Hi Bill

<<snip>>

R> Have you seen the latest debacle between Hypersion and Amiga INC (or whoever
R> they are now)? This bodes badly for the future of OS4 either way.

No, I have not seen the latest! What's the bad news this time?

I was astounded yesterday when 15 messages appeared from this mailing list.

<<snip>>


Cheers  Don (Green Dragon)
--

I responded to a message regarding someone looking for the above
software and am unable to find the email address of the requester.
Unfortunately, I don't remember what the Amiga related group was. I do
have the software, so if you are still in need, please email me at
jonbp@...

So I bought an AmigaOne with OS4 a whiole back, got the first ROM
update, but there were many things lacking. it didn't even get onto
the internet, nor did the disk-drive work properly.
It has been standing inert now for a long while. I am guessing some
progress has been made, but also that the project has ground to a
halt. How well does the OS work? Does the internet-connection run now?

Also, I am looking to export some Finalwriter-documents. Final writer
97 runs on the OS 4 if I recall correctly, am I right? Noone happens
to have a Final Writer for Windows laying around?

Hi Rasmus :-)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rasmus" <sierbahnn@...>
To: <amigaone@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 9:04 AM
Subject: [amigaone] I have been out of circulation


> So I bought an AmigaOne with OS4 a whiole back, got the first ROM
> update, but there were many things lacking. it didn't even get onto
> the internet, nor did the disk-drive work properly.
> It has been standing inert now for a long while. I am guessing some
> progress has been made, but also that the project has ground to a
> halt. How well does the OS work? Does the internet-connection run now?
>
Progress has been made in great proportions :-)

there was several OS upgrades made availlable and another rom.
networking/internet/wireless works like a charm now :-)
system stability is there (at least for me) and motherboard dma/usb fixing
solutions exists (for XE mobos, not SE)

Amigalement,
Jean-François :-)

Hello Rasmus,

On 04/12/2008, you wrote:

> So I bought an AmigaOne with OS4 a whiole back, got the first ROM
> update, but there were many things lacking. it didn't even get onto
> the internet, nor did the disk-drive work properly.
> It has been standing inert now for a long while. I am guessing some
> progress has been made, but also that the project has ground to a
> halt. How well does the OS work? Does the internet-connection run
> now?

   My OS 4, updated to the last update, is very stable.  Also, there are
many useful programs from OS4 Depot, especially utilities, that make my
Amiga G4-XE quite useful.  The internet connection is very stable
though I think booting the network seems to take sometime.  Once
started it works well and doesn't stop.

> Also, I am looking to export some Finalwriter-documents. Final writer
> 97 runs on the OS 4 if I recall correctly, am I right? Noone happens
> to have a Final Writer for Windows laying around?

   I did purchase the Windows version and it was very incomplete IIRC.
It provided very little functionality.  Open Office for Windows is a
much better choice.  I think I still have the floppies for the Windows
version of Final Writer.  Final Writer97, the last version of the
program, runs very well under OS 4 and is a much better version than
that done for Windows.

> ------------------------------------
Talk to you later.
--
Dr. Larry Keller
Levin College of Urban Affairs
Cleveland State University
lkeller@...

I need to be able to export old FinalWriter files, and since my
AmigaONe is not allowing me to do that at present, the
windows-version, however incomplete, might at least let me export the
files and be done with it. That is why I am asking, you see. And yes,
OpenOffice is by far better, apart from it not being able to read the
mountains of text I have saved in Final Writer's format. :)

--- In amigaone@yahoogroups.com, "Dr. Larry Keller" <nacs-keller@...>
wrote:
>
> Hello Rasmus,
>
> On 04/12/2008, you wrote:
>
> > So I bought an AmigaOne with OS4 a whiole back, got the first ROM
> > update, but there were many things lacking. it didn't even get onto
> > the internet, nor did the disk-drive work properly.
> > It has been standing inert now for a long while. I am guessing some
> > progress has been made, but also that the project has ground to a
> > halt. How well does the OS work? Does the internet-connection run
> > now?
>
>   My OS 4, updated to the last update, is very stable.  Also, there are
> many useful programs from OS4 Depot, especially utilities, that make my
> Amiga G4-XE quite useful.  The internet connection is very stable
> though I think booting the network seems to take sometime.  Once
> started it works well and doesn't stop.
>
> > Also, I am looking to export some Finalwriter-documents. Final writer
> > 97 runs on the OS 4 if I recall correctly, am I right? Noone happens
> > to have a Final Writer for Windows laying around?
>
>   I did purchase the Windows version and it was very incomplete IIRC.
> It provided very little functionality.  Open Office for Windows is a
> much better choice.  I think I still have the floppies for the Windows
> version of Final Writer.  Final Writer97, the last version of the
> program, runs very well under OS 4 and is a much better version than
> that done for Windows.
>
> > ------------------------------------
> Talk to you later.
> --
> Dr. Larry Keller
> Levin College of Urban Affairs
> Cleveland State University
> lkeller@...
>

Hello Rasmus,

On 04/17/2008, you wrote:

> I need to be able to export old FinalWriter files, and since my
> AmigaONe is not allowing me to do that at present, the
> windows-version, however incomplete, might at least let me export the
> files and be done with it. That is why I am asking, you see. And yes,
> OpenOffice is by far better, apart from it not being able to read the
> mountains of text I have saved in Final Writer's format. :)

   Can you run Final Writer at all on your AmigaOne?  The last version
does permit saving in the rtf format and these export the main body of
text well.  Other parts don't seem to be transformed well if at all.

   If you can't save to rtf then FW files are indeed unreadable for the
most part.  IIRC, which I may well not since it has been decades since
I looked at the Windows version, some aspects of FW files may not load
correctly into the Windows version.  But going that route is better
than nothing.

   I do have the floppy disks for both the Amiga and Windows version of
FW I think.  I have not looked in years for them but don't think I
disposed of them.  I have no way to read the disk any longer so you are
welcome to them.

   I assume one could also ship the program though I guess it is not in
the public domain.

   Good Luck with the files.

> --- In amigaone@yahoogroups.com, "Dr. Larry Keller" <nacs-keller@...>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hello Rasmus,
>>
>> On 04/12/2008, you wrote:
>>
>> > So I bought an AmigaOne with OS4 a whiole back, got the first ROM
>> > update, but there were many things lacking. it didn't even get
>> > onto the internet, nor did the disk-drive work properly.
>> > It has been standing inert now for a long while. I am guessing
>> > some progress has been made, but also that the project has ground
>> > to a halt. How well does the OS work? Does the internet-connection
>> > run now?
>>
>>   My OS 4, updated to the last update, is very stable.  Also, there
>> are many useful programs from OS4 Depot, especially utilities, that
>> make my Amiga G4-XE quite useful.  The internet connection is very
>> stable though I think booting the network seems to take sometime.
>>  Once started it works well and doesn't stop.
>>
>> > Also, I am looking to export some Finalwriter-documents. Final
>> > writer 97 runs on the OS 4 if I recall correctly, am I right?
>> > Noone happens to have a Final Writer for Windows laying around?
>>
>>   I did purchase the Windows version and it was very incomplete
>> IIRC.  It provided very little functionality.  Open Office for
>> Windows is a much better choice.  I think I still have the floppies
>> for the Windows version of Final Writer.  Final Writer97, the last
>> version of the program, runs very well under OS 4 and is a much
>> better version than that done for Windows.
>>
>> > ------------------------------------
>> Talk to you later.
>> --
>> Dr. Larry Keller
>> Levin College of Urban Affairs
>> Cleveland State University
>> lkeller@...
>>
Talk to you later.
--
Dr. Larry Keller
Levin College of Urban Affairs
Cleveland State University
lkeller@...

Rasmus,

I agree with the rest of the respondents.  FW97 runs VERY well on the
A1/OS4, latest versions of OS4 as well as stable internet.  For moving
FW files over to a PC export to RTF (Rich Text Format) format as
suggested.  MS/Word will load RTFs without a problem.
One thing that was not mentioned... this could also be done on OS3.9
Amigas, so if you still have one of those running you can do the
export to RTF there too.

John


--- In amigaone@yahoogroups.com, "Rasmus" <sierbahnn@...> wrote:
>
> So I bought an AmigaOne with OS4 a whiole back, got the first ROM
> update, but there were many things lacking. it didn't even get onto
> the internet, nor did the disk-drive work properly.
> It has been standing inert now for a long while. I am guessing some
> progress has been made, but also that the project has ground to a
> halt. How well does the OS work? Does the internet-connection run
now?
>
> Also, I am looking to export some Finalwriter-documents. Final writer
> 97 runs on the OS 4 if I recall correctly, am I right? Noone happens
> to have a Final Writer for Windows laying around?
>

Hi!

Still quite a few assigned to this list.
I wonder, how many of you have SE's?
And I mean in working condition that is.

Regards - Rudolph

Hallo Rudolph,

   I sold my SE last Spring.  It is in working condition and the person
to whom I sold it intended to use it.  Not sure if he subscribes to
this list or not.

   Interestingly, the SE booted much faster than my XE on which I am
writing this message.  Apparently my home network settings make for a
very slow boot.  However, the SE had usb problems, even with a hub.
Not sure if I had a Belkin hub but the hub could not help the SE keep
the usb connection.  Made transfer of files via a memory stick nearly
impossible.  Also, the network connection could be dropped for not
reason and with no warning.  Other than those issues, it was working
fine.

   If I had had some money I would have accepted the generous swap of
the SE for the XE.  Alan made a sweet offer but at the time I had no
resources.  I purchased this XE from the original purchaser who had no
time to use it.  So far, my XE is doing well.

   Will be interesting to see how many still use SE's.

Am 08/03/2008 schriebst Du:

> Hi!

> Still quite a few assigned to this list.
> I wonder, how many of you have SE's?
> And I mean in working condition that is.

> Regards - Rudolph



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Gruss,
--
Dr. Larry Keller
Levin College of Urban Affairs
Cleveland State University
lkeller@...

Hi Rudolph,

I have one, fully operative although I haven't used it for some months now
'cause I'm not home. Works great, with an ATI 7500, 512Mb RAM, SoundBlaster and
80Gb HDD (onboard ide) and onboard ethernet. AmigaOS 4.0 and Debian Etch. Never
had any troubles with the IDE and DMA with my SE. In fact, used it since the
beginning with Debian and later with AOS4 'cause PIO didn't worked as it should
in my case.

Mostly used for web browsing, emailing, gaming, watching videos and some word
processing and "spreadsheeting".

Regards,
Enrique

rudolph_riedel wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> Still quite a few assigned to this list.
> I wonder, how many of you have SE's?
> And I mean in working condition that is.
>
> Regards - Rudolph
>

Greetings

My A1 SE is still going strong here, 5 and a half years after purchase. Used
pretty much on a daily basis.

Regards



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I do have an Amiga SE, working as Internet backup system for my many email
accounts. I do run 1 times a week. I used it as my main computer, until the war
began between Amiga Inc and Hyperion. Now my main computer is an iMac 24" much
more reliable and better webbrowser.

I'm waiting for a working PageStream version for AOS 4 at least as stable as the
version I have on my A3000T.

Regards,

Manou


--- rudolph_riedel <rudolph.riedel@...> schrieb am So, 3.8.2008:

> Von: rudolph_riedel <rudolph.riedel@...>
> Betreff: [amigaone] AmigaOne SE?
> An: amigaone@yahoogroups.com
> Datum: Sonntag, 3. August 2008, 23:29
> Hi!
>
> Still quite a few assigned to this list.
> I wonder, how many of you have SE's?
> And I mean in working condition that is.
>
> Regards - Rudolph
>
>
>
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I am intending to put my old A1200 hard drive into the Sam440EP-Flex I'm
thinking of buying.  I would use a SATA To IDE Convertor to access the drive -
http://www.maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?TabID=1&criteria=usb&ModuleNo=36036&C=SO&U=S\
trat15  Is the Sam or OS4.1 likely to have any problems with this?

Donald:

   I used one of those in an Amiga and it worked fine.  Just attaches to the
drive and then connect the SATA cable to it.

   Good Luck with the drive.

---- millicad <DonaldWM@...> wrote:
> I am intending to put my old A1200 hard drive into the Sam440EP-Flex I'm
thinking of buying.  I would use a SATA To IDE Convertor to access the drive -
http://www.maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?TabID=1&criteria=usb&ModuleNo=36036&C=SO&U=S\
trat15  Is the Sam or OS4.1 likely to have any problems with this?
>

--
Dr. Larry Keller
Ohio Amigan
lkeller100@...

Hi,

Thanks, that's very helpful!

Donald

--- "Dr. Larry Keller" <lkeller100@...> wrote:
>
> Donald:
>
>   I used one of those in an Amiga and it worked fine.  Just attaches to the
drive and then connect the SATA cable to it.
>
>   Good Luck with the drive.
>
> ---- millicad <DonaldWM@...> wrote:
> > I am intending to put my old A1200 hard drive into the Sam440EP-Flex I'm
thinking of buying.  I would use a SATA To IDE Convertor to access the drive -
http://www.maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?TabID=1&criteria=usb&ModuleNo=36036&C=SO&U=S\
trat15  Is the Sam or OS4.1 likely to have any problems with this?
> >
>
> --
> Dr. Larry Keller
> Ohio Amigan
> lkeller100@...
>