Hi,

I know that Eyetech have said that they are not planning to write drivers
for the amigaone, or rather any PCI cards for the amigaone, but will the
grex/predator voodoo drivers work with it. Also will there be any kind of
scsi drivers, I don't mind having to go out and buy a new Hard disk to boot
from, but my scanner, cd-burner and Zip drive are all SCSI, and I don't want
to loose them, or have to replace them.

Mark

A1200T Blizzard 1260 + scsi, ZIV, Cybervision 64/3D,Zip100, Yamaha 8424,
Umax 2200SU, Ariadne.

> I am a A3000 User and I feel given up...
> I have plenty of money to spend too...
> Please, eyetech please... think about us!!!

We haven't discounted Amiga 3000 owners. However, we do need to concentrate
on the AmigaOne 1200 & 4000 first. At a later date, when it becomes viable,
we will monitor interest for AmigaOne boards for other models of Classic
Amiga.


Regards,

Eyetech Group Ltd

Hi Ben,

> Well my first question has maybe already been asked but I need an answer :
> will the AmigaOne1200 fit into a 1200 Elbox Tower (those sold for Mediator
> compatibility) ?

Yes, it is being designed to fit into any tower which houses the Z4
busboard - Elbox Tower included.

Regards,

Eyetech Group Ltd

Hi David,

> what requirements are you after?
>
> At present i own all Amiga computers and use all common software.

Full information on the requirements, and an application form, are available
on the AmigaOne section of our website.


Regards,

Eyetech Group Ltd

Hi Graham,

> I thought I would kick off by asking opinions on which AmigaOne to go
> for. I have a '1200 and a '4000. A tower for the 1200 is cheaper and
> I imagine spare parts are easier to come by.... but is there a
> performance hit compared to the 4000-Amigaone?

At the moment there should be no foreseeable performance hit for one
AmigaOne board over the other, as the function of the Classic Amiga board is
simply to provide custom chip and legacy hardware compatibility. Most of the
speed-critical operations are performed on the AmigaOne board itself.

> Also as an aside I am sure the cpu connector on the 1200 is more
> robust than the 4000 variety.

This is quite possibly true, although the connection to an AmigaOne board
will be as reliable as current Amiga accelerators (if not moreso, as the
AmigaOne board will be fixed in place and hence mis-contact through movement
would be minimised). Current Amiga accelerators are generally reliable when
it comes to the connection to the trapdoor slot, so you may find that the
deciding factor for you in which board you get will be which is available
first - which will be the AmigaOne 1200.


Regards,

Eyetech Group Ltd

Hi Everyone.

This is Sinan Gurkan from Amigart(http://www.amigart.com)
I am also one the official beta-testers
of AmigaOS 3.5 and AmigaOS 3.9

Good luck to Eyetech and all Amigans for this project...

Thanks
Sinan Gurkan

>Hello World!

Ciao!

>my questions are:
>
>1)I have a powertower4000+mediator4000 whitout core locic can i will fit
in
>the tower the Amigaone?
>2)the amiga one can run on it Amiga classicOS & warpOs ?
>3)in emulation or on the old 68k cpu like shark from elbox?

Yet again, from the mp3 on the AACD you will find the answer to at least
one of these questions.

Explaining the jist of the mp3 in Italian in case of understanding
difficulty :

In caso che non riesci a capire l'inglese - dicono che AmigaOne puo essere
usato da solo con AmigaOS 3.X correndo su G3/G4 in emmulazione presso da
haage & partner e se c'e la scheda madre alora il sistema puo chiama per
alcune cose su la scheda madre tipo AGA e porte origionale (non so se puo
usare i slot zorro o altre periferiche). Il G3/G4 puo utilizare programmi
scritto per il PPC.
Se vuoi chiedere di aiuto per la traduzione di alcune cose poi spedire un
email a me in privato :-)

Flavvy

Hello World!

This is Gigi(tlo)Burdo Programmer reviewers of Amigazette an italian on-line
amiga-spaghettiprogramming magazine

http://www.amigazette.it



my questions are:

1)I have a powertower4000+mediator4000 whitout core locic can i will fit in
the tower the Amigaone?
2)the amiga one can run on it Amiga classicOS & warpOs ?
3)in emulation or on the old 68k cpu like shark from elbox?


for now thats all

Regards
--
-Gigi(tlo)Burdo
  Amiga4000 user
  LinuxPPc Fun
  Pc users flooder

> Hello Yoris,
>                    nice to hear from somone in the amiga commercial
> sector.....are hyperion receiving development
> machines from eyetech???

Not yet I guess, see the timeframe on the web site.

If so any chance of an early
> review of the system? As for your message, I think it is
> the same as an ez-tower and should be compatible.
>

OK thank you for the info.

Bye,

Ben Yoris

Hyperion Entertainment Software
PR Manager
Web: http://www.hyperion-software.com

Hello Yoris,
                    nice to hear from somone in the amiga commercial
sector.....are hyperion receiving development
machines from eyetech??? If so any chance of an early
review of the system? As for your message, I think it is
the same as an ez-tower and should be compatible.

Jack
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yoris Benjamin" <byoris@...>
To: <amigaone@egroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 9:05 AM
Subject: [amigaone] Hello


> Hello,
>
> this is Ben Yoris from Hyperion/AmigaPower.
>
> I'm glad to meet all of you on this ML.
>
> Well my first question has maybe already been asked but I need an answer :
> will the AmigaOne1200 fit into a 1200 Elbox Tower (those sold for Mediator
> compatibility) ?
>
> Bye,
>
> Ben Yoris
>
> Hyperion Entertainment Software
> PR Manager
> Web: http://www.hyperion-software.com
>
> To unsubscribe, email: amigaone-unsubscribe@egroups.com
> For AmigaOne info, please see: http://www.eyetech.co.uk/amigaone
>

>Hello,

Hi

>I'm glad to meet all of you on this ML.

Thank-you, nice to meet you

>Well my first question has maybe already been asked but I need an answer :
>will the AmigaOne1200 fit into a 1200 Elbox Tower (those sold for Mediator
>compatibility) ?

I think that this is the same case as the power tower which according to
the Eyetech ad in AA should be compatible.

BTW Who is the Eyetech ppl on this list -- I dont think we have heard
anything from you yet, Are you just lurkers :-)

Flavvy

Hello,

this is Ben Yoris from Hyperion/AmigaPower.

I'm glad to meet all of you on this ML.

Well my first question has maybe already been asked but I need an answer :
will the AmigaOne1200 fit into a 1200 Elbox Tower (those sold for Mediator
compatibility) ?

Bye,

Ben Yoris

Hyperion Entertainment Software
PR Manager
Web: http://www.hyperion-software.com

--- ANTONF@... wrote:
>
>
> >I have an A4000 mikronic tower (7 zorro 3 X passive
> PCI). Is it OK?
>
> Lucky you :-)
>

I don't know if I'am lucky. I would like to know if
this tower is supported by the Amigaone. As sometimes
the same product is marketed with diferent names it is
a bit complicated to find out by myself.



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If it is so that CyberPPC Card is not usable,
I will need to reativate my IDE HD Interface or what ?

Hi All,
        firstly I want to wish eyetech the best of luck for this
project, as quite frankly it's the best news i've heard for the
Amiga for a long time. Anyway as for my subject, I am just hoping
that eyetech does not price themselves out of the market. It has
been done before, ie phase 5 etc...when will hardware manufacturers
for the amiga learn that there is a certain price we will pay to
upgrade our beloved miggy's but no more. The most I would be able
to swallow would be about £350-400 for this upgrade...sounds stingy
but quite honestly I can get a PC for this price, which is supported
worldwide by myriads of companies.

Now as for functionality, I guess the classic os just sees the
amigaone as a standard accellerator board, and lets you run PPC
games and apps as usual?? And that the SDK is used to run the amigaone
in native mode??

Jack

>I have an A4000 mikronic tower (7 zorro 3 X passive PCI). Is it OK?

Lucky you :-)

>Is the Amiga only in use to provide AGA ?

And maybe access to the ports like serial/parallel etc


>What kind of mac cpu slot is it (the old pci type one or the new zif
>kind)?

AFAIK its the zif

>Is it  33mhz PCI or 66 Mhz ?

66Mhz if you listen to the mp3 on AA

>I wish Eyetech the best for this project !

So do the rest of us :-)

Flavvy

--- In amigaone@egroups.com, r.gourrier@f... wrote:
> I am a A3000 User and I feel given up...
> I have plenty of money to spend too...
> Please, eyetech please... think about us!!!

Yes! That's my opinion too. I sold my A1200 a couple of years ago and
bought an A3000 instead because I was told that it was much more
expandible. And what happens! All new fun stuff is only made for
A1200/A4000.

So. Anybody got any idea: Will this new board be usable with the
A3000? I've got mine built into a huge tower, so the space shouldn't
be a problem...

I am a A3000 User and I feel given up...
I have plenty of money to spend too...
Please, eyetech please... think about us!!!

hi eyetech,

what requirements are you after?

At present i own all Amiga computers and use all common software.


david260179@...

> ...
> I agree with this point. I'm curious to know if the AmigaOne
> implementation, at least for the A4000, does this require
removing the
> Zorro3 daughtercard to be replaced with a new daughtercard
holding the
> PCI/AGP slots? This sound like what wold likely be done.
>
> But, considering that there isn't much Zorro logic on this card
now
> (the real logic is 99% on the motherboard, with perhaps a
buffer or
> something small like that on the daughtercard), why not leave
the
> Zorro slots there, which would fit behind the PCI/AGP slots the
same
> way they currently fit behind the ISA slots, leaving them usable
to
> us?


Yes I have the same problem here. I need access to zorro and
video slots until I have better on PCI.

> This way, for example, I could then use my PicassoIV while I
wait for
> a PCI graphics card to be supported, or while I write my own
graphics
> card driver, I won't be limited to AGA and the development PCI
card...

> > I also heard that the flashrom can be used tostore
> > drivers for various devices in the PCI slots - if
> > so how large is this flashrom and is it possible to
> > have parts of the OS in there as well for speeds
> > sake or to have a non HD bootable macchine?
>
> Putting OS pieces in FLASH ROM isn't going to make anything
> particularly faster, see the people copying their ROMs to FAST
RAM for
> faster access? For booting it'd be faster than from hard drive,
but
> I'd rather have a SCSI driver in there than workbench, so I could
> actually get to my hard drive, CDROM, ZIP, scanner, etc. Of
course, if
> the FLASH is much bigger than WarpOS and SCSI require,
P96 or CGX
> support and generic 2d VGA drivers would be nice for an
early-boot
> menu on any PCI card, and thenstart  fitting useful boot utilities
and
> libraries in there, and early-boot prefs for other things...
>

Yes I would love the early startup. Every computer on the planet
should have nice menus to manage a maximum of settings.

One other usage of the flashram will be the 68k emulator.
I hope the flashram will be big enough to handle all of this.
I hope also there will be a rom (or other system) able to boot and
rebuild a defective flashram ..

Christophe.

I have an A4000 mikronic tower (7 zorro 3 X passive PCI). Is it OK
?

Grex and mediator have combo PCI / Zorro slots. How will I keep
my zorro card with Amigaone 4000 ?

What about video slots (toaster ...) ?

Is the Amiga only in use to provide AGA ?

When will we see photos of the prototype boards (it will ask a lot
of questions) ?

Who are the eyetech people answering this list ? ;)

Will the mac compatible cpu slot support MP cards ?

What kind of mac cpu slot is it (the old pci type one or the new zif
kind)?

What CPU multiplier will be available ?

Is it  33mhz PCI or 66 Mhz ?

What about the AGP speed ?

Will it support firewire on the board or only on pci cards ?

I wish Eyetech the best for this project !

Best regards, Christophe.

--- In amigaone@egroups.com, "Graham Lerant" <grahaml@m...> wrote: > Hi folks > 
> I thought I would kick off by asking opinions on which AmigaOne to go  > for.
I have a '1200 and a '4000. A tower for the 1200 is cheaper and  > I imagine
spare parts are easier to come by.... but is there a  > performance hit compared
to the 4000-Amigaone? > Also as an aside I am sure the cpu connector on the 1200
is more  > robust than the 4000 variety. >  > cheers >  > Graham Lerant  Hi
there,  From what I understand it shouldn't make a difference which you buy. As
the AmigaOne 1200 and AmigaOne 4000 simply emulate the Amiga Classic using the
G3/G4 only refering the motherboard for custom chips, so (Correct me if I'm
wrong anyone) there shouldn't be a performance hit at all. You are just lucky
enough to have both machines so you get to choose whichever is available first
;o).  Hope that helps,  Russ.

--- In amigaone@egroups.com, ANTONF@u... wrote:
>
> > I thought I would kick off by asking opinions on
> which AmigaOne to go
> > for. I have a '1200 and a '4000. A tower for the
> 1200 is cheaper and
> > I imagine spare parts are easier to come by....
> but is there a
> > performance hit compared to the 4000-Amigaone?
> > Also as an aside I am sure the cpu connector on
> the 1200 is more
> > robust than the 4000 variety.
> >
>
> I have a similar problem to you except that I would
> also like to keep the use of my accerories on
> either/both macchines but am not sure if these will
> become redundant.

I agree with this point. I'm curious to know if the AmigaOne
implementation, at least for the A4000, does this require removing the
Zorro3 daughtercard to be replaced with a new daughtercard holding the
PCI/AGP slots? This sound like what wold likely be done.

But, considering that there isn't much Zorro logic on this card now
(the real logic is 99% on the motherboard, with perhaps a buffer or
something small like that on the daughtercard), why not leave the
Zorro slots there, which would fit behind the PCI/AGP slots the same
way they currently fit behind the ISA slots, leaving them usable to
us?

This way, for example, I could then use my PicassoIV while I wait for
a PCI graphics card to be supported, or while I write my own graphics
card driver, I won't be limited to AGA and the development PCI card.
Or I could use my Delfina-Plus sound card, while I wait for a decent
PCI sound card to be supported. Or use my Rapidfire SCSI card while I
wait for a PCI SCSI card to be supported. (I don't do IDE, so don't
have any IDE drives now, and would rather keep using my existing SCSI
drives than have to replace them all)

Also, if they choose to do an A4000T version for us Escom/Quikpak
customers, would they block the Zorro slots on the motherboard, or
leave open space there so we can find a way ourselves, or sell a way,
to connect our Zorro cards to the existing motherboard slots? I'd
rather have to fashion a small board connection extender than have a
new PCB laying over top of these slots... I do hope the A4000T is
supported at some point with an AmigaOne version. But I'll probably
buy an A4000desktop/tower/AmigaOne kit from the dealer anyway, thogh
an A4000T AmigaOne would be strongly preferred, and I may very well
get a Grex-Lite for it to have a decent PCI graphics card.

> I also heard that the flashrom can be used tostore
> drivers for various devices in the PCI slots - if
> so how large is this flashrom and is it possible to
> have parts of the OS in there as well for speeds
> sake or to have a non HD bootable macchine?

Putting OS pieces in FLASH ROM isn't going to make anything
particularly faster, see the people copying their ROMs to FAST RAM for
faster access? For booting it'd be faster than from hard drive, but
I'd rather have a SCSI driver in there than workbench, so I could
actually get to my hard drive, CDROM, ZIP, scanner, etc. Of course, if
the FLASH is much bigger than WarpOS and SCSI require, P96 or CGX
support and generic 2d VGA drivers would be nice for an early-boot
menu on any PCI card, and thenstart  fitting useful boot utilities and
libraries in there, and early-boot prefs for other things...


Bill Toner

> Flavvy
> (Not sure whether to get one of these add on boards
> or wait for a standalone macchine later on)

Now thats the question... Brand new miggy, with no possiblility of an ancient
1200 or 4000 finally dying and taking the machine with it...

or the possibility of having the faster accelerator possible wacked into your
old system in a new tower case (in my case), and a new machine in one!!!

hmmmm.... not easy...

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> I thought I would kick off by asking opinions on
which AmigaOne to go
> for. I have a '1200 and a '4000. A tower for the
1200 is cheaper and
> I imagine spare parts are easier to come by....
but is there a
> performance hit compared to the 4000-Amigaone?
> Also as an aside I am sure the cpu connector on
the 1200 is more
> robust than the 4000 variety.
>

I have a similar problem to you except that I would
also like to keep the use of my accerories on
either/both macchines but am not sure if these will
become redundant.

The way that I understand the situation which could
be wrong is that the AmigaOne is basically a board
with 6PCI slots,ram,flashrom,IDE header, space for
a CPU, and a connector to fit onto either an A1200
or A4000 (depending on version)
The OS (be it OS 3.X or DE) will run on this CPU
(G3/4) either nativly or emulated and all graphics
etc are sent to boards on PCI cards and only when
run in AmigaOS 3.X mode is the classic(origional)
board accessed (to either run AGA games/apps or use
its ports) but are the other periferals still
accessible (zorro, scsi, pcmcia , clock port header
etc). The AmigaOne can live by itself (standalone)
and therefore can be placed in a seperate box and
with the use of a network card transfer files to
the Amiga"classic". Another question pops up here -
what about serial/parralel ports ? Are they on the
AmigaOne or do you need to use a PCI slot for a
controller card or use the origional Amiga mobo?
I also heard that the flashrom can be used tostore
drivers for various devices in the PCI slots - if
so how large is this flashrom and is it possible to
have parts of the OS in there as well for speeds
sake or to have a non HD bootable macchine?

Sorry for the large posting :-)

Flavvy
(Not sure whether to get one of these add on boards
or wait for a standalone macchine later on)

Hi folks

I thought I would kick off by asking opinions on which AmigaOne to go
for. I have a '1200 and a '4000. A tower for the 1200 is cheaper and
I imagine spare parts are easier to come by.... but is there a
performance hit compared to the 4000-Amigaone?
Also as an aside I am sure the cpu connector on the 1200 is more
robust than the 4000 variety.

cheers

Graham Lerant