Grape growing and winemaking friends!

Our hosting company corrupted our links database about
two weeks ago and we are unable to restore it from our
backups.

We are currently re-spidering websites as quickly as possible
but would appreciate your help.

You can help us to improve the grapeseek links database by taking
a moment to click on the following URL and adding your favorite
grape growing or winemaking website to our directory.
http://www.grapeseek.com/search/turkscripts_spider.cgi

Your participation is greatly appreciated and we thank you in
advance for your support!

If you are a member of more than one of our groups you will
probably receive more than one copy of this message.  For
this I apologize.

Sincerely, Michel White
President,
Grapeseek, Inc.

OLLY,
TRY ALSO      GRAPEPICTURES.COM

Try Deborah Golini at UCD

My name is Oliver Weston and I am an undergraduate in the UK.

I am studying Biological Sciences, specialising in wine. For my
project I am trying to produce a data base of vines grown in the UK.
I have some resources such as Galets books, but am finding it hard to
find other material. Research papers I have found are mainly on DNA
and other means of identification. My aim is to produce a data base
based on physical identification, almost like a field guide for UK
growers.

Any help or comments would be greatly appreciated.

Best wishes
Oliver Weston.

yes. and i left a standing order there for them to notify me if it
appears.

thank you!

Tony Baker wrote:

> have you tried amazon.com?
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have you tried amazon.com?

Again, thank you!

tanya

Howard Miller wrote:

Tanya,

Galet's early book, A Practical Ampelography, has been out of print for quite awhile.  I bought my copy back in 78 from Cornell University Press for $22.50.  Recently I saw a copy of the new revised version in the University of California at Davis Bookstore under the title "Grape Varieties and Rootstock Varieties" for $121.25.  If interested, call the Technical Book Department at 530-752-2944.  You might want to request their special catalogue of viticulture and enology books.  I think you can also reach them at generalbooks@...

Howard Miller
hjmhma@...

Tanya wrote:

Does anyone have an idea where i can find this book? I have been
attempting to locate it through rare and used books, out of print books,
etc, to no avail.

thank you for any suggestions you may have!

tanya

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Phone: 208-285-0121
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Fax: 208-285-0165
E-mail: juliana@...
 

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more than I can accomplish."
--Michelangelo
 

Galet's early book, A Practical Ampelography, has been out of print for quite awhile.  I bought my copy back in 78 from Cornell University Press for $22.50.  Recently I saw a copy of the new revised version in the University of California at Davis Bookstore under the title "Grape Varieties and Rootstock Varieties" for $121.25.  If interested, call the Technical Book Department at 530-752-2944.  You might want to request their special catalogue of viticulture and enology books.  I think you can also reach them at generalbooks@...

Howard Miller
hjmhma@...

Tanya wrote:

Does anyone have an idea where i can find this book? I have been
attempting to locate it through rare and used books, out of print books,
etc, to no avail.

thank you for any suggestions you may have!

tanya

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Tanya Wojtowych
PO Box 145; Genesee, ID  83832
Phone: 208-285-0121
Fax: 208-285-0165
E-mail: juliana@...
 

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more than I can accomplish."
--Michelangelo
 
 

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Does anyone have an idea where i can find this book? I have been
attempting to locate it through rare and used books, out of print books,
etc, to no avail.

thank you for any suggestions you may have!

tanya

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Tanya Wojtowych
PO Box 145; Genesee, ID  83832
Phone: 208-285-0121
Fax: 208-285-0165
E-mail: juliana@...


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"Lord grant that I may always desire
more than I can accomplish."
--Michelangelo

The translation book by Lucie Morton is no longer in print and unavailable
anywhere. i have been using contacts and searches with publishers/dealers
and no luck to date

As for lucie's rootstock book - in her words " i'm getting close". that was
in jan 2000 when i talked with her in Melbourne Australia. As of oday still
not yet to publisher

Kevin Ker

Debra wrote:

>
> Hi Mr. White and all. I am just joining the group now as the majority
> of our work is done this year. We have desperatly been trying to
> obtain a book on ampelography and are finding it difficult to locate
> one. What progress has Lucy made in the translation of Galet's book
> and do you know when it will be published? And her rootstock book?
> Perhaps Kevin Kerr could advise us of the availability in Canada.
>
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Brock University
St. Catharines, Ontario L2S 3A1
Ph (905) 688-5550 ext 4717    fax (905) 641-3104
Email  kker@...

Hi Mr. White and all. I am just joining the group now as the majority
of our work is done this year. We have desperatly been trying to
obtain a book on ampelography and are finding it difficult to locate
one. What progress has Lucy made in the translation of Galet's book
and do you know when it will be published? And her rootstock book?
Perhaps Kevin Kerr could advise us of the availability in Canada.

here are the PICs of the vine,berries and leaf
What I mainly wish to know is if it is a wine or table grape.
And possibly the name.

Cheers Fishziblu

I am trying to identify a wild vine that is growing in the woods
around
my 10 acre vineyard (hybrids and vinifera) in southeastern
Pennsylvania.  It is obviously Lubrusca and does not look like
riparia,rupestris or berlandieri. The shoots are long and stringy,
smooth with felty hairs.  Deep green-color leaves, orbicular, felty
and
somewhat like Galet's Lubrusca leaf illustration but with an
overlaping
petiolar sinus that is lyre-shaped if your open it up.  Leaf shape
reminds me of the medium, barely three-lobed leaf of Berlandieri.
Leaf
edges are extremely small,pointed teeth. It's really not like
anything
in Galet or Grapes of New York.  Can anyone hazzard a guess?
Howard Miller
hjmhma@...

Patrick,
Your english is better than many "English speaking" people online...

If anyone posts in French here, I'll answer them but in English.  My
french writing is terrible but I hope to have more practice and time
to improve it this next year as I enable french speaking features to
our many websites.  I still don't have Galet's books but will be
ordering them shortly and can't help you with the measurement
issue or would address it now for you...Our group is still very young.
WELCOME!....and I hope to visit you in Belgium someday or have
you over to Germany in the Stuttgart area.
Sincerely,
Michel White.....a French Canadian Yankee now living in Germany....

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> Message: 1
>    Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 20:03:52 -0000
>    From: patrick.colignon@...
> Subject: hello from Belgium
>
> hello
>
> I have just joined the group and have no question for the moment. I'm
> from the french speaking part of Belgium and member of an association
> of amateur winemakers called 'Cordeliers de Saint-Vincent'. Our
> colleges and I grow some vines of unknown origin. I intend to search
> for the right name for these "cépages". I will tell the group
> about
> this later.
>
> I use the books of Pierre Galet but need some more information on how
> to take the measures for leaves. I will also ask details about this
> soon.
>
> I'm not so keen at english, so is there anyone to correspond in
> french with?
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________

hello

I have just joined the group and have no question for the moment. I'm
from the french speaking part of Belgium and member of an association
of amateur winemakers called 'Cordeliers de Saint-Vincent'. Our
colleges and I grow some vines of unknown origin. I intend to search
for the right name for these "cépages". I will tell the group
about
this later.

I use the books of Pierre Galet but need some more information on how
to take the measures for leaves. I will also ask details about this
soon.

I'm not so keen at english, so is there anyone to correspond in
french with?

fish ziblu wrote:

 

How can I accurately know the type of grapes there are in my
field. I have just recently given the care of a field and have
some vines which I would like to identify. They are still one
year old and only one has beared a cluster of fruit.

The berries looks like :
pear shaped yellow grape about 0.5inches big
the cluster is loose and not heavily loaded with berries
the leaf has a jagged leaf edge.

Can anyone help or do you need a photo ?

thanks
FIsh Ziblu
 

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How can I accurately know the type of grapes there are in my
field. I have just recently given the care of a field and have
some vines which I would like to identify. They are still one
year old and only one has beared a cluster of fruit.

The berries looks like :
pear shaped yellow grape about 0.5inches big
the cluster is loose and not heavily loaded with berries
the leaf has a jagged leaf edge.

Can anyone help or do you need a photo ?

thanks
FIsh Ziblu


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I'd like to hear from grower/breeders that can help me
choose the correct parent vines for breeding work. I
am interested in Muscat wine crosses for cool, region
one climates.

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adrian smith wrote:

I'd like to correspond with similar grape breeding
hobbyists. I have a lot of unusual muscat hybrid
materials to trade, including crosses with Vitis
Coignetiae.
Roy Johnson

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I'd like to correspond with similar grape breeding
hobbyists. I have a lot of unusual muscat hybrid
materials to trade, including crosses with Vitis
Coignetiae.
Roy Johnson

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I'd like to correspond with anyone who has used the
Asiatic species Vitis Coignetiae in breeding. I have a
few and I think the species has some value for cooler
regions like the Puget Sound area of Western
Washington and, perhaps even further north, Like the
Matanuska Valley of Alaska?
I have, at present an excellent female hybrid of
Coignetiae x Elmer Swenson's 2-4-7.

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I'd grapely appreciate if someone could scan a few pages
and email it to me as I'm preparing to do some intense
photography of new grape varieties to add to grapepictures.com
and for future ampelography reference.

If  anyone also knows where I can find a copy of it,
I'd appreciate the info.  I've searched the internet
but to no avail.

Thanks in advance!
Michel White
....watching my Cabernet Sauvignon kit fermenting....J

Hi Members!
I just spoke to Lucie who is really swamped with her
"Black Goo" project right now and finishing up her
book.  She also ensured me that she's interested in this
group and will participate as soon as she is freed up
a bit.

She'll probably allow me to develop her websites for
her and get them started in the near future and
I, for one, am anxious for her to have time to renew
this project and I'd like to see grape improvements
over the next few years in ampelography come out of
our membership.

I hope you will all be patient and remain as members
and also participate here as often as possible!

I am still looking for a copy of Galet's "Practical
Ampelography..." and would appreciate any help in
finding one...

I still plan to try to photograph up to 2000 more
varieties this fall in Siebeldingen at the Geilweilerhof
Research Center.  Lucie has told me to photograph the
leaves and growing tips very closely and I assume that
this is the easiest way to distinguish between varieties...

Your input is welcome!
Michel White

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From: Michel White

To: ampelography@egroups.com

Sent: Monday, July 10, 2000 9:35 AM

Subject: RE: [ampelography] confirmation

Welcome Ary and others...

 

Where are you located?

I'm in Germany and put this group together because

Lucie Morton wants to soon re-establish the old Int. Ampelography

Society with Debbi Dellinger who is the secretary. 

 

Lucie's not quite ready to work on this

project untill her book on rootstocks is completed in the next few

weeks, but GrapeSeek, Inc. will probably build the website for

the society at

http://www.ampelography.org in the very near future, and we are trying to

build up some members that might be interested... 

 

Hopefully we'll soon be sending out an

invitation to all of the previous members soon.

 

My interest in this is to continue cataloging photos of

different varieties for use at http://www.grapepictures.com and

provide the public and researchers with a better and more

complete database than some

of the current ones.

 

Hope to hear from you again, and we should hear from Lucie

sometime around the 15th when she returns from her travels.

 

Thanks!

Michel White

 

 

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From: Aryden [mailto:aryden@...]
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2000 2:55 PM
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Subject: [ampelography] confirmation

Hy.

This is Ary Pigeon from Clos de la Montagne winery and cider maker.

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From: Ker Crop Management Services - KCMS [mailto:kcms@...]
Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2000 7:10 PM
To: ampelography@egroups.com
Subject: Re: [ampelography] Ampelography

Kevin Ker.

I am a Viticultural consultant and Grape IPM specialist. Along with my consulting , i teach at the Cool Climate Institute  Oenology and Vit institute at Brock -  plant protection as well as grapevine biology ( including ampelography)

Michel White wrote:

 Hi,I don't know your name because you haven't filled out yourprofile at the eGroup but hope you will!Lucie Morton is doing some consulting in California and isexpected to join us shortly...as well as the secretary ofthe International Ampelography Society...Debbi Dellinger...I own grapepictures.com and will be photographing anadditional 2000 varieties this fall.I'd love to learn more about you and hope you'llbe a contributor to our group!Thanks for joining!Michel WhiteTo unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
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K.W. Ker
Industrial Associate
Cool Climate Oenology and
Viticulture Institute (CCOVI)
Brock University
St. Catharines, Ontario L2S 3A1
Ph (905) 688-5550 ext 4717    fax (905) 641-3104
Email  kker@...
 

I am a Viticultural consultant and Grape IPM specialist. Along with my consulting , i teach at the Cool Climate Institute  Oenology and Vit institute at Brock -  plant protection as well as grapevine biology ( including ampelography)

Michel White wrote:

 Hi,I don't know your name because you haven't filled out yourprofile at the eGroup but hope you will!Lucie Morton is doing some consulting in California and isexpected to join us shortly...as well as the secretary ofthe International Ampelography Society...Debbi Dellinger...I own grapepictures.com and will be photographing anadditional 2000 varieties this fall.I'd love to learn more about you and hope you'llbe a contributor to our group!Thanks for joining!Michel WhiteTo unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
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ph (905) 945-8228 fax (905) 945-2144
email   kcms@...
 

K.W. Ker
Industrial Associate
Cool Climate Oenology and
Viticulture Institute (CCOVI)
Brock University
St. Catharines, Ontario L2S 3A1
Ph (905) 688-5550 ext 4717    fax (905) 641-3104
Email  kker@...